Pre-K for All: A Winning Issue for Progressives
The campaign for universal pre-school for all California kids, spearheaded by Rob Reiner, will today submit signatures qualifying the initiative for the ballot next year.
A compromise bill that will guarantee funding for three hours of pre-school for every 4-year old in the state, whether they are in public or private schools, the supporters range from Netflix CEO Reed Hastings to the California State Council of Service Employees to the Oakland, San Francisco and Los Angeles chambers of commerce.
The business support is particularly significant, since the initiative is paid for with a hike in state income taxes on those making more than $400,000 per year. The Los Angeles Chamber had not endorsed a tax increase in its 117-year history.
Which goes to show the potency of the day care/pre-K issue, since businesses, unions and of course families know the tension between taking care of their kids and work is the biggest strain on many families.
Even California Taxpayers Association spokesman Ron Roach, who dislikes the proposal, admits it will be popular:
"It's going to be quite popular with voters because they won't be taxing themselves," he said. "They'll be taxing someone else."Here's the dirty little secret that conservatives hate to admit. "Tax the rich" politics is popular and successful, especially when the proposed taxes are used to relieve financial pressures on families struggling with balancing the demands of work and family.
Across the country, we need a "tax the rich to help the American family" campaign that would fund not only pre-K education but paid family leave and better health care for all famillies.
There's a platform for progressives in 2006.















Spot on. There's no excuse for the kind of short shrifting early childhood education and development gets - it's quite literally robbing the future. Now if only we could segue this initiative with one that guarantees no more than 20 students per class at any level of primary or secondary education.
November 17, 2005 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, look at Virginia. It can be popular in all kinds of states, spun by different stripes of progressive politicians. Definitely an issue that Democrats can share as a national issue.
November 17, 2005 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spot on. There's no excuse for the kind of short shrifting early childhood education and development gets - it's quite literally robbing the future.
Exactly. That’s why most of the left, moderate, and right support pre-K funding.
Newman attempts to put his own bizarre spin on it as usual though:
Here's the dirty little secret that conservatives hate to admit. "Tax the rich" politics is popular and successful, especially when the proposed taxes are used to relieve financial pressures on families struggling with balancing the demands of work and family.
Dirty little secret? Talk about spin-o-rama. Maybe the Norquist’s of the world would hate to admit it, but this is CA we’re talking about. I don’t see many Norquist types holding office in CA. In CA most conservatives (by CA standards) are voting for pre-K funding just like the left and middle. That was the point about its broad bi-partisan popularity… So where’s the “dirty little secret” exactly?
But whatever, I wouldn’t expect reality to penetrate Newman’s tinfoil hat.
November 17, 2005 2:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nick-- Blah, blah, blah. Even when you agree you have to have diarrea of the mouth. You really have some kind of sick pathological fixation on me. Anyone who claims to be so uninterested in what I say, but spends so much time reading and replying to it has some pretty fucked up psychological stuff going on. But racial self-hatred will do that to you, I guess.
November 17, 2005 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
The original article described the conditions for the initiative as follows:
This is yet another example of a bad, if well-meant, initiative. Three hours of state-funded daycare will do little for the poor Californian who needs full-time daycare so they can get to work. It will instead be a nice bonus to wealthier Californians who can already afford to send their children to daycare. Even worse, Milton Friedman will be overjoyed at this beachhead for school vouchers.
In fact, this initiative demonstrates the principal problem with the initiative process. It does not allow for debate as to how best to raise and spend $2B on education. Frankly, I would prefer that any additional money raised would be spent on improving the existing education system and not in creating a new entitlement.
November 17, 2005 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, I just find your know-nothing BS especially easy to debunk. When you stop making such absurd comments, I’ll stop debunking them.
Take your brain drain nonsense for example, which completely ignores the long term benefits of foreign trained professionals for the long term welfare of parent countries in the 3rd world. India being a perfect example which most of the 3rd world hopes to emulate. Your theories are classic ivory tower gibberish, and nobody in the 3rd world wants your nonsense.
Then, you're so pathetically desperate to act like you're doing something other than failing miserably on all your pet issues like open borders, that you attempt to politically steal a mainstream initiative victory. Pathetic.
November 17, 2005 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nick-- you are fixated on the immigration issue, so you drag it into every post, even those that don't mention it.
You are a psychologically obsessive person. It's just kind of sad-- and your need to keep posting the same vitriol over and over again is just a little bizarre.
November 17, 2005 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Three hours of state-funded daycare will do little for the poor Californian who needs full-time daycare so they can get to work."
Is it simply daycare - sitting kids in front of the TV to watch Disney videos - or something more than that? I confess I haven't read the initiative, and apart from this post and a blurb elsewhere I'm not entirely sure what we're talking about, but traditionally pre-school has been differentiated from day care by its educational content.
Pre-school does seem to have significant value toward future social and educational success, but daycare is something else entirely. Four year olds of course need adult supervision and care regardless of class or ethnicity, but the research suggests that even mid primary school aged kids do equally well in mother care or as "latchkey" kids after school, and much better than kids on a number of measures in day care and with sitters. I think Democrats should support policies that encourage flex time and telecommuting, allowing a parent to be home more often with their kids after school.
November 17, 2005 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
you are fixated on the immigration issue,
I'm fixated on the immigration issue? Newman's last couple posts have been on immigration and global trade. Hello?
I'm just rebutting the nonsense Newman keeps posting. I've said before I don’t know why Josh even allows such a crank as Newman on his site. Josh isn't for "open borders" nor do I suspect Josh has difficulty grasping how x-pats from the 3rd world ultimately help the 3rd world economic development such as India’s success story for example.
Newman's continued inability to address complex macro economic realities is what's "bizarre" about these exchanges. But then what else to expect from someone coming from the sheltered and intellectually inbred as the activist community of Newman, which has been on one long decline for decades.
For example of how silly Newman’s arguments are, one the greatest developments in 3rd world development has been “microcredit” which is due in large part to a Western trained economist x-pat of India, Muhammad Yunus. He began the successful microcredit bank which has now spread across the globe helping tens of millions to a better life and issuing more than $5 Billion in loans and inspired many similar efforts. Additionally his model has been widly copied to help more people.
He began his bank from his own funds based on his insights and western economic training. Had he never left India to seek foreign training, had he never acquired the wealth to begin his microcredit banking, or had he listened to the traditional liberal activist dogmatically anti-capitalistic screed, one of the most successful 3rd world development programs would never have begun, and literally tens of millions of people would be worse off for it.
Newman and his confused un-economic theories follow a long tradition of incompetent activism of doing more harm than good. There are plenty of more sensible activists for good causes then the Newman Nonsense variety.
November 17, 2005 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is how one site describes the initiative. The initiative would:
- ensure that children with special needs are meaningfully included;
- put quality teachers and aides in place and assure they are compensated comparably to K-12 teachers and aides;While the goal is to have well-trained staff, the initiative appears to plan for slow implementation of credential standards for teachers, with all teachers required to have a bachelors degree with teaching credits by 20014.
So it seems to be aiming to create a system more than day care, although it will of course depend on the implementation.November 17, 2005 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
The website and pdf text of the preschool initiative.
November 17, 2005 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excuse me while I interrupt the side issue debate.
Nathan:
Thank you for posting this issue:
The following may assist others if they have questions about this particular California initiative. . .
Impact of the Preschool for All (PFA)
From the United Child Care Union (UCCU) [AFSCME]
November 17, 2005 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nick-- you are fixated on the immigration issue, so you drag it into every post, even those that don't mention it. You are a psychologically obsessive person. It's just kind of sad-- and your need to keep posting the same vitriol over and over again is just a little bizarre.
I wonder if it's possible to get NickDoe banned?
November 17, 2005 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
By all means, I'd also be curious to know where TPMC stands. Does TPMC and Josh want to ban rational, moderate arguments against fringe cranks like the Newmans and Firebugs?
Is TPMC protectionist as Firebug and Newman advocate?
Does TPMC endorse the notion that professional immigration from the 3rd world ultimatly hurts or helps those economies. India as an example. Newman claims they hurt more than help.
Does TPMC stands with the fringe, or the mainstream left?
November 17, 2005 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this country would be well advised to spend money on the falling high-school system of education here, specially in science, where it is well below that of the rising developing world.
What I see is a failing attitude towards parenting. Money to get rid of what is essentially a parent's job ....
Leadership in the world is slowly going to give away due to the selfish sef interests of this generation.
November 17, 2005 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Taxing higher-income types for redistributional measures can have some serious unintended consequences, which is why it needs to be limited.
That's why I favor the Basic Income Guarantee plan...
Guaranteeing a flat marginal tax rate, with perhaps some short-term exceptions, constrains class warfare and makes tax enforcement easier. It also satisfies a sense of fairness inasmuch as each of us pays the same amount for each dollar we earn.
Reduction in Income Inequality isn't as important as reduction in Wealth Inequality. High Marginal Tax Rates make it harder for more people to become wealthy and is too easily subverted with the help of unproductive CPAs that would be better deployed teaching jr high mathematics.
dlw
November 17, 2005 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
In fact, this initiative demonstrates the principal problem with the initiative process.
November 17, 2005 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, initiatives in California have now required that all tax increases need a two-thirds vote in the legislatures. So a one-third minority can block any initiative requiring money.
So the past of initiative votes now virtually requires initiatives to pass any serious progressive legislation requiring new tax resources.
Sad but true in California.
November 17, 2005 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Across the country, we need a "tax the rich to help the American family" campaign that would fund not only pre-K education but paid family leave and better health care for all famillies.
This would be a disaster as a platform--and if the Democrats adopt it they'll end up on the scrap heap once again.
Americans want a strong safety net and programs to help balance work and family. But they also want those programs to be modest and affordable to the taxpayers. Most Americans believe that "tax the rich" really means "tax the middle class"--and they're not wrong, because there simply aren't enough rich people to cover the cost of all these programs, even if we tax them at very high rates.
The American people don't want what the Republicans offer: no social safety net and endless tax cuts for the rich. But they also don't want endless social programs and high taxes. They want something in-between: modest, efficient social programs and moderate taxes. Whichever party grabs this middle ground will win for years to come.
So sure, think about a pre-K program--but show how you can provide it at an affordable cost to all taxpayers. That'll get you much further than "soaking the rich."
November 17, 2005 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is another exmple of the initiative process in California run amok. Rob Reiner admitted as much on election night, when commenting on the impending defeat of Arnold's folly. He said that even though he was personally sponsoring an initiative on the 2006 ballot, he thought that the process had gotten out of hand.
California already socked a surcharge on high wage earners last year, to finance a mental health initiative. That was after Arnold, pre governorship, carved out a 49 million dollar budget set-aside through his after-school program initiaitive.
We've already passed initiatives to finance pet projects by taxing rich people, drinkers, and smokers. I suppose SUV drivers, fat people, and coffee drinkers are next.
This is no way to run a government, folks.
And if you think that Democrats have a winning strategy in funding universal pre-school with a tax surcharge on incomes over $400,000, be prepared for another losing electoral cycle.
November 17, 2005 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree regarding universal preschool.
Many in the middle class in Calif. can't afford private preschool, yet don't get state funded preschool, for their kids, while they pay more taxes to the state then the low class and immigrant low class i might add to a fairly large extent, who do get state funded preschool for their kids.
I'm not advocating cutting preschool for the lower class and immigrant lower class, that should and is the priority, I just think it's fair to offer it to everyone, or at least up through the middle class ranges.
November 17, 2005 11:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Tax the rich" politics is popular and successful, especially when the proposed taxes are used to relieve financial pressures on families struggling with balancing the demands of work and family.
I watched Ted Kennedy propose an amendment last night to impose a 1% tax on incomes over $1 million to go into a fund to alleviate children living in poverty.
Grassley said the way to end poverty in children was to "strengthen families."
Er, OK.
Seems like Republicans live in a dream world when it comes to issues like this, but since the amendment failed pretty easily, right now getting these measures passed is not so easy.
November 18, 2005 4:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nick, you wrote: "Newman's last couple posts have been on immigration and global trade. Hello?"
I checked on this and it is not true.
Nathan's last posts prior to yours were on:
The Costs of the Brain Drain (your point)
A Real Start on Health Care
More Attacks on Employer-Based Health Care
a post on trade and labor rights in China
a post on why he does not take free traders seriously
It looks as though only one of his last five posts was on immigration and global trade.
I don't think you do your cause good by making misstatements about what Nathan is doing.
If you want to disagree with him, fine, great. The tenor of your attacks is overly personal to my way of thinking, though, certainly more personal than is necessary for you to make your points. If you stick to offering reasoned criticism of those of his views you disagree with, without impuning Nathan per se, that would be an unambiguously positive contribution, I feel.
November 18, 2005 7:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think this country would be well advised to spend money on the falling high-school system of education here, specially in science, where it is well below that of the rising developing world.
Better secondary education would also be a good thing. Making sure that all small children have access to preschool (giving them a good start and a better chance at succeeding in secondary school) is certainly no less important.
What I see is a failing attitude towards parenting. Money to get rid of what is essentially a parent's job...
I strongly disagree. I can afford to send my child to the preschool of my choice, but I favor universal access to preschool because I think it is extremely important for all children to have the best possible chance for success in school (and in life).
My child doesn't need preschool nearly as much as the children whose parents can't afford it.
November 19, 2005 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink