Geography 101
If Reed can write about football here, then I guess I can too, so I'll say this: Somebody needs to tell the NFL that Washington, DC and Baltimore, Maryland are too different cities. Most people don't seem confused about this. Washington is where I live. The West Wing is set here. Baltimore, though not all that far away, is to the north and The Wire is set there. Here in Washington our football team is the Washington Redskins. In Baltimore they have a different football team, the Baltimore Ravens. The teams, conveniently, are named in part after their respective cities so people can keep them straight. But the NFL seems confused and the consequences are dire.
If, as is usually the case, the Ravens are playing at 1 PM Eastern Time, then residents of DC must get the Ravens game as our AFC game no more how awesome the alternative may be. That's bad. Some weeks, the Ravens aren't playing at 1PM and you might think that would give us the opportunity to see a non-Ravens better matchup like yesterday's Steelers-Bengals game. But no! The Redskins were playing at 1PM as Fox's NFC game (nothing wrong with that) and CBS isn't allowed to counterprogram against the Redskins with anything other than the Ravens. You either get Ravens, or else you get nothing.
Even worse is the reverse situation. If the Ravens are playing on CBS and the Redskins aren't playing, then Fox isn't allowed to show an NFC game at all. The only thing you can counterprogram against the Ravens with is the Redskins. No Redskins game means no game at all.
So we miss a lot of potentially good football games. This would be forgiveable if Washington was, in fact, a two-team city like New York. But it isn't. It's a city with one football team that just happens to be close to another city with a different team. What's more, the Ravens are bad. They're a bad, dull, no-offense team. And even worse, while Rupert Murdoch broacasts all NFC games in high-definition, CBS only offers high-def for their premiere matchup. But since the Ravens are so dull, they're never the premiere matchup and never in high-definition. And Washington residents never get to see the premiere AFC games.
Now I understand that Nationals fans face similar problems with Major League Baseball's inability to tell the difference between these two cities. But I don't really care about baseball. Last night, I was flipping between the World Series of Baseball and the World Series of Poker and getting pretty disgruntled that the former broadcast felt entitled to call itself "The World Series" without qualification.
At any rate, The New York Times is surely right to say that we should raise the gas tax but that would be unpopular (just ask Tim Kaine) so I see why congress doesn't do it. You would think, though, that they'd be willing to take action to save their DC-residing staff from the horrors of living under the Ravens jackboot. Or maybe the idea is to deliberately limit DC entertainment options to get people to work harder.















I applaud you for writing about football, but don't entirely agree with your conclusions.
First, we actually, officially, do live in the "Baltimore-Washington-DC, MD, VA, WV Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area" (Which includes the Baltimore, MD MSA, the Hagerstown, MD MSA, and the Washington-Arlington-Alexandria DC-VA-WV MSA). Not that this necessarily has any practical significance in terms of being two different cities, but might partially explain football's confusion on the issue.
Moreover, the primary audience and customers for a city's sports teams isn't just the people who live in the city, but those who live in its suburbs. And a good chunk of the people who live in DC's Maryland suburbs, making them potential Redskins fans, are also in close proximity to Baltimore, making them potential Ravens fans. And, in terms of broadcast TV, they're also in our TV market. To paraphrase your other blog last week "Marylanders are people, too"
Also, since you brought up baseball, I'll humbly submit that the long time when DC had no team and the Orioles were the team for DC people might have furthered the confusion about whether or not Baltimore and DC are separate cities, sports-wise.
More seriously, it was a f@#(*&@ beautiful day outside yesterday, if you were unhappy with the football options on TV, you certainly had other excellent entertainment options (not to mention a decent number of bars where you could catch another game if you so chose).
October 24, 2005 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
October 24, 2005 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's absurd is that we haven't gotten to the point where we can spend a little money to actually watch the games we want to watch. Right now you have to get satelittle and the whole NFL package or nothing. Its criminal - or should be.
October 24, 2005 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe the NFL doesn't think that anyone actually lives in DC. CNNMoney recently posted a survey showing that DC is the biggest commuter city of its size in the country: its daytime population is 73% higher than its nighttime/weekend population. Who's left to watch football?
October 24, 2005 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
October 24, 2005 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, mhpine, that really blew. I had to resort to the NFL.com scoreboard page so I could find out what was going on. It was very strange to see the situation go from 17-14 Chargers and kicking a FG to 19-17 Philly!
Matt: Gregg Easterbrook points out every week that Iran has better NFL options every week than DC. (The same goes for NYC, where I live.) Every week Teheran gets to see something like New England against Pittsburgh and major East Coast cities get the home team and Baltimore-Miami (or something). It's really bad, and the NFL should do something about it.
October 24, 2005 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
if you want to obsess over a socialist spectacle like football, power to ya (i'm a gints fan myself, but not a football fan), but really: you need to learn something about baseball.
In three hours of a football game, you get 7 minutes of action: is that something to get excited over?
as i watch and listen to football junkies, i think about what soccer coach sven goran erickson said about soccer in italy: "in most countries, a football match lasts 90 minutes, but in italy, it lasts all week."
October 24, 2005 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is a simple reason for this. The NFL defines a team's local area as anywhere within 75 miles of the stadium. This is the area that is blacked out on television if the game does not sell out.
Now, 75 miles seems reasonable when you are talking about cities like Kansas City or Green Bay but it really does not make sense in more congested areas. I live in NJ and if I were to move about 25 miles southwest I would fall into the "local" area for the Jets, Giants and Eagles. God knows what those people get stuck watching.
October 24, 2005 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just to note, Baltimore and Washington are no longer in a single consolidated metropolitan statistical area, for the simple reason that CMSAs no longer exist. They are each in separate metropolitan statistical areas, although they are in the same combined statistical area, which is actually rather similar to the old consolidated metropolitan statistical areas. So I suppose it's six of one, half a dozen of another.
Secondly, the idea that Marylanders are confused about which team to root for is ridiculous. People from the DC suburbs (Montgomery and PG County) root for the Skins. People from the Baltimore area (Baltimore, Baltimore County, Anne Arundel, probably Howard) root for the Ravens. There may be some overlap, but it's not really all that difficult. As a native Montgomery County-an, I can vouch for the fact that there are no Ravens fans there.
Beyond this, there is a very simple issue - Baltimore and Washington each have a full range of local tv stations. In a reasonable world, the Baltimore stations would broadcast the Baltimore games, and the Washington stations would broadcast the Washington games.
October 24, 2005 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
New York is not a two-team city but a zero-team city. The Jets and Giants both play in New Jersey. As Easterbrook likes to say, for NFL purposes New York City is located in New Jersey.
The biggest problem, I think, is not that the NFL insists on showing the local game (I imagine that there are more Ravens fans in and around DC than you realize) but that CBS is not allowed to air a game to compete with the local game on FOX (or vice versa). Why not let fans at least get a choice between two games?
October 24, 2005 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I grew up in Central New Jersey, about 50 miles from NYC and 60 miles from Philly, so we got to see the Jets, Giants and Eagles as our local teams. Though most people in my area declared allegiance to the New York based teams (as more people moved to the 'burbs from NYC), there were a few insane people who lived and died by the Eagles, which led to contentious Monday mornings at school. And this held true for all sports, so we had Phillies fans arguing with Mets fans and Knicks fans arguing with 'Sixers fans. There were very few people who admitted to being Nets fans (myself excluded - I lived and died with my Jersey teams), due to their horrible record throughout my school-going years. And, in regards to the Giants and Jets being from Jersey, I've been saying that for years. The NFL really should give the state its due (as Springsteen eloquently pointed out on his '99 tour).
October 24, 2005 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Allright!!! Browns fans love Raiders fans...you guys are nuts, too. :)
October 24, 2005 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Calling the "World Series" of Poker a "World Series" is actually pretty stupid. The World Series is a series of baseball games. What is the WSOP? A series of poker hands? The first year they called it the WSOP (1970), the winner was actually decided by popular vote!
Anyhow, if you can equate the drama of poker hands played months ago with the live, unfolding drama of the last two innings of that baseball game last night, you need to be sent to some sort of sports re-education camp. You can learn there that the NBA sucks too.
But as someone who grew up in the D.C. suburbs I too am frustrated by the D.C./Baltimore confusion. I have little connection to D.C. but absolutely NONE to Baltimore. I don't think I could even name one street there.
October 24, 2005 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why does life have to be so damn difficult?
October 24, 2005 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is one great thread.
500 years from now, an anthropologist seeking to figure out the shifts from geographical allegiance to culture-and-tribe-by-choice might use it as a sort of Rosetta Stone to decode some confusing things.
(I have no patience for doctoral students who complain that all the great thesis topics have been done already. I see good stuff all the time.)
:-)
October 24, 2005 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are right, this is a frustrating problem. However, I was able to watch the Pit/Cin game yesterday on channel 13 (a baltimore station) from the DC suburbs. I have no idea why, but channel 13 often shows a different game than channel 9 (both are CBS stations).
October 24, 2005 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Worry about the big things. For example, I haven't seen Richard Perle's name in the paper for months. Is he still alive?
October 24, 2005 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
We get that here in Northern California, with the Niners and the Raiders. Since I'm a long-time Bucs fan (I was a fan back when saying you were a Bucs fan got you laughed at), I say a plague on both their houses, especially this year when both Bay Area teams are so incredibly bad.
October 24, 2005 11:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I well remember living in Iowa and getting the Chiefs game every week. Oh, how I hate the Chiefs.
But, since I moved to Norway I only get one game a week: the Monday night game. And now I don't care who is playing, it's football.
October 25, 2005 4:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.commoncensus.org/sports_map.php?sport=1
October 25, 2005 8:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
While the Census Bureau -- or whomever decides such things for the Census Bureau -- considers Washington and Baltimore to be part of the same area, the Nielsen Company doesn't. And generally they networks follow Nielsen's lead. I don't know why the league feels it necessary to treat Washington and Baltimore this way.
October 25, 2005 8:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice link.
Who knew that the Cardinals had 45 fans?? :)
I see that Va. Tech country is Falcon territory, thanks to Mr. Vick.
And parts of Alabama are Packer country, thanks to Mr. Favre. But where are the Raiders fans allegedly? And which of the two NY teams is dominating the tri-state area? (I'm guessing it's the Giants.)
October 25, 2005 8:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
but both are in last place, which makes us Steelers fans very happy
October 25, 2005 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink