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Bush, the Pentagon, and Extremism

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So the president, Larry Johnson tells us, hadn't heard GWOT had become GSAVE. "No one checked with me," Bush apparently told his senior aids about the changing nomenclature of his signature foreign policy initiative. I can see why he might be perturbed, because the change in name in fact suggests a fundamental change in policy. GSAVE's focus is on transnational networks rather than on states, on extremist ideology rather than on terrorist tactics, on a multidimensional struggle rather than on military combat, on working with others rather than on going it alone. In short, it represents a repudiation of the last four years of American policy.


Which raises this question: How seriously should we take the change?

The answer isn't as obvious as you'd think, given who's driving the change. It's clear that this isn't some Roveian response to declining public support for the president and his policies.  Rather, the driving force behind the effort to recast the fight against radical jihadism is the Pentagon, which has borne the brunt of that fight. Early doubts about GWOT were expressed by none other than Donald Rumsfeld in October 2003 when he wondered  , appropriately, whether we were "winning or losing the Global War on Terror."


That "snowflake," as Rummy's memos are known, set the Pentagon gears in motion -- and the result was a new strategy that was formally adopted last March.  This "National Military Strategic Plan for the War on Terrorism," according to U.S. News and World Report, "examines the nature of the antiterror war in depth, lays out a detailed road map for prosecuting it, and establishes a score card to determine where and whether progress is being made."  It defines the treat as "Islamist extremism" that form part of a "global web of enemy networks." It recognizes that the fight against this enemy cannot be won with military might alone.  And it makes clear that gaining the support from other countries are critical to success.  As Doug Feith told U.S. News, "We need to have countries willing to cooperate with us and capable of doing the things they need to do to serve our common interests." Not the kind of language you'd expect to hear from one of the principle architects of the Iraq War.


But if the Pentagon is changing, is the rest of the U.S. government following suit? That's far from clear. Bush and Cheney appear to have far more faith in the familiar framework of GWOT then the more murky and uncertain world of GSAVE.  The rest of the government, moreover, seems singularly ill-prepared to wage the global struggle effectively.  As George Packer notes in the most recent issue of the New Yorker


The global struggle against violent extremism would inspire more confidence if, for example, the Administration hadn't failed to include funding for democracy programs in Iraq beyond the next round of elections there; or if Karen Hughes, the President's choice as Under-Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy, hadn't left the job empty for five months while waiting for her son to graduate from high school; or if the White House weren't resisting attempts by Congress to regulate the treatment of prisoners; or if Karl Rove would stop using 9/11 to raise money and smear Democrats.


And, I'd add, if Bush himself showed signs of accepting his Pentagon's view that the GWOT has failed and a new strategy is desperately needed.


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I'd take more stock in Rummy and Feith's conversion to the new policy if they had the guts to admit that they made fundamental mistakes under the old policy.


As it is, the Administration's recent comments is tacit acceptence of the post-invasion push-back from career soldiers and spooks. In the run-up to war, the Pentagon and CIA were manipulated to justify invasion, and subsequently scape-goated when things soured. Now, I suspect Rummy no longer has the power to run roughshod over the rank-and-file, and that Twisted Sister's "We're Not Going To Take It" has moved into heavy rotation on the Muzak playlists for the Pentagon and Langley.

The Pentagon can come up with any acronyms it likes, and they can pretend to care about global alliances and terror networks.  But actions talk and acronyms walk, in my opinion.
Bush is going to be the same old Bush, this administration will continue to be hated and loathed, and the real war on terror will be underfunded in favor of the Iraq debacle.
I find it funny that some underlings want to change the entire policy of the administration, yet didn't both to inform Farmer McChimpy of that fact. It's also funny that the Bushies pretend that they just came up with this idea, when in fact reality-based minds on the left were advocating these tactics four years ago.

My questions would be is this a name change, a change of plans, and just how engaged is our president in the reality of GWOT or GSAVE or whatever the policy is to be?  


What the policies are is of grave importance to our country, and different agencies of the US government don't seem to be on the same page.  I can't believe how murky and adrift the Bush administration appears on fighting terrorists or extremists or whatever it is that we are doing.

In short, the pentagon is realizing what most sentient beings realized in the immediate aftermath of 9/11: that we cannot possibly be at "war" with something called "terrorism;" that "terrorism" covers a very wide range of behaviors, all of which are disgusting but many of which pose no security threat to the United States; that the problem the United States faces is a specific form of terrorism, namely jihadist islamic fundamentalism; and that solving the problem requires more than random, poorly thought out "cakewalk" invasions.

george bush and dick cheney are quite clearly incapable of thinking this through at any level, and so we will continue to stumble for the next 3.5 years.

But for Bush to accept the "Pentagon's view that the GWOT has failed and a new strategy is desperately needed" would imply an admission of a mistake, and as we all clearly recall from last year's debates, Bush seems incapable of acknowledging any form of policy error.
This sentence is also intriguing:  "GSAVE's focus is on transnational networks rather than on states, on extremist ideology rather than on terrorist tactics, on a multidimensional struggle rather than on military combat, on working with others rather than on going it alone."  In light of the recess appointment of John Bolton to the U.N. post, we now really seem to have a situation where the Administration's right hand and left hand are operating at cross-purposes.  One of the most significant ideological reasons for opposition to the Bolton appointment was his perceived inability to work constructively on transnational and multidimensional issues.  How can we reasonably expect other nations to respond positively to our newfound way of thinking?

It's also notable that the underpinning for the entire strategy behind GSAVE appears to be the same as what Sen. John Kerry was advocating during the campaign last year -- positions for which he was derided by Bush and his supporters.  In their world, however, I suppose, this wouldn't constitute a flip-flop.

Which are we to believe is the true policy of the Administration now, though:  GSAVE and its many multilateral requirements, or the Bolton/Hughes "America First!" wing?  Color me skeptical for thinking that the latter probably has the edge.

Actions speak louder than words, and the actions of this group haven't changed. Also, wars are black/white, something simple minds can comprehend and address. Global Struggle Against Violent Extremists...well, by definition appears to be complex, multi-layered and demands a much more comprehensive approach if one wants to be successful. Hardly something we have seen from Bushco.


No, I really can understand why Bush wants to keep GWOT - he simply doesn't have the intellectual horsepower to deal with GSAVE.

The politics is the policy, and therefore all criticism is "partisan."  Let Karen Hughes take her time setting up her office of Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy while the troops die by the daily dozens, but when it's time for recess appointments, "we are a nation at war."

We all serve at the pleasure of a petty clique of shameless cynical opportunists.

My sense is that Rumsfield and the Pentagon were never happy with "war" and "terrorism," except insofar as it offered cover for a while for Rumsfield to try to do what he wanted to do.  But I don't think the realization you mention is as recent with Rumsfield and the military as you suggest.

Got your GWOT?


Gee Dub isn't going to give up being a "war" pResident for any PR catharsis. I am beginnig to suspect that the Pentagon snowflakes from the top are really snowflakes from Peru. These people are going from the absurd to the sublime.


"The global struggle against violent extremism would inspire more confidence if, for example, the Administration hadn't failed to include funding for democracy programs in Iraq beyond the next round of elections there; or if Karen Hughes, the President's choice as Under-Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy, hadn't left the job empty for five months while waiting for her son to graduate from high school; or if the White House weren't resisting attempts by Congress to regulate the treatment of prisoners; or if Karl Rove would stop using 9/11 to raise money and smear Democrats."


Yeah and if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his when he landed.

speculating about what the "pentagon" thought is really above my pay grade, Jeff, but maybe i should just have said the pentagon is "expressing" what sentient beings realized and leave it at that.

i actually have little doubt that there are plenty of people in the pentagon who think the idea of a "war on terror" is deranged; i'm not sure i'd count rumsfeld in their number, though....

I also agree -- don't include Rummy in the clear-headed thinkers here.

General Casey (I think it was him?) said it last week -- the problem with the notion of the "war on terror" is that it assumes the military is the solution.

I wonder if this is just a ploy by the Pentagon to redfine the problem so that the failure is someone else's?

Let's not forget who and what we're up against. With BushCo, it's all about politics.

So, this has nothing to do with the military. It has nothing to do with Rummy, or Feith, or anyone else. It's about winning in 2006. It's about ENSURING that there is no Demcratic Party in office anywhere. Their mission is to make the Democratic Party irrelevant. (Pre-emptive troll strike -- yes, I know, we already are irrelevant...)

BushCo will change the name, promise to pull out troops, say we're turning the corner....anything to give Republicans their 2006 election talking points.

Once they win, we'll be right back to our standard foreign policy -- blowing shit up.

War on Extremism but they didn't like the acrony m WOE. It sure is approprate.


Besides Bush would have to attack himself and his administration, extremists all.



Uh, let's remember that we're dealing with Republicans here.  You know, 'less is more- for you, not me' and 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss' people.


I believe GSAVE can be summarized as:  make other countries to do even more of the work.  Offshore that baby, pronto.


It's obvious what's in it for the Pentagon- this is all about packaging up GWOT and mailing it over to the CIA.


As far the Bush people are concerned, GWOT was lost- became useless- for their political purposes when in the aftermath of the July 7 attack in London their 'handling terrorism' rating domestically fell to under 50%.   It is their polling 'ceiling', after all, on which all their domestic "popularity" is leveraged.  (Who really cares about a few thousand dead schmucks in the Middle East and a few wacko Arabs, really?  Wielding the power of and stealing in a big way from a $14 trillion economy is so much more important and fun to joyride.)

Maven, I agree with most everything you said 100% -- except for this:
<span class="Apple-style-span">"we now really seem to have a situation where the Administration's right hand and left hand are operating at cross-purposes."</span&gt<span class="Apple-style-span">
</span&gt<span class="Apple-style-span">When talking about the Bush Administration, the metaphor really should be "the Administration's right hand and far-right hand." </span&gt

"...or if Karen Hughes, the President's choice as Under-Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy, hadn't left the job empty for five months while waiting for her son to graduate from high school;"

A possible military recruit?

I don't think we can question whether there's really a new strategy. Whatever its label, it's quite real at DOD/State/NSC. As we've been tracking at Liberals Against Terrorism for months now, both policies and rhetoric from the Bush Admin leaders (especially Rumsfeld, Myers and Rice) have shifted noticeably since early this year. Lacking a catchy acronym, we've described the emerging long-term multi-dimensional global strategy as "marginalization" of extremism, akin to the Cold War "containment" strategy.

The shift in strategy appears to have been driven, as Ivo suggests, by the military, which has understood for some time that it alone can't "win" a "war" but it can "execute" its part of a long-term multi-dimensional "strategy." (Thanks for that formulation to Armchair Generalist.) Rumsfeld's "snowflakes" were the bureaucratic catalyst for pulling together thinking that was already well-advanced within the bowels of the military itself.

Beginning with Rice's confirmation hearings in January, it looks like State/NSC have also been pushing forward on elaborating the non-military parts of "marginalization" or GSAVE -- not only the "negative" dimensions of collaborating with other countries to limit the breeding grounds and capabilities of extremists who could turn into transnational terrorists, but as Stephen Hadley says, the "positive" promise of democracy and freedom. Karen Hughes may not be at her desk in Foggy Bottom, but if you look at her nomination acceptance speech and her confirmation hearings testimony, you'll see she's been hard at work refining the way the "positive" message is going to be delivered.

The change in message has been real and steady. Rumsfeld was already using the full version of the new formulation in May, although without turning it into an acronym. Karen Hughes' rhetoric and slogans are being constantly woven through speeches and remarks by Rice's entire team at State. In fact, their message discipline is so complete that sometimes I feel like I'm just listening to automatons.

The problem for the Bush Admin is that, while policy and rhetoric have been steadily evolving, the "branding" has remained fixed. The introduction of "GSAVE" reflects the need to update the "brand" and align it with the reality of evolving policy objectives and operational approaches. The big surprise hasn't been the appearance of GSAVE as a label for what's already in the works. The big surprise was Bush reverting to a hard-core version of the old GWOT brand during his prime time speech on Iraq at the end of June. But when it comes to Iraq, Bush knows his key audience, which insists on "winning the war," even though we're quite sensibly engaged in de-escalation and gradual withdrawal, consistent with a broader global strategy of minimizing threats from violent (primarily Islamist) extremism.

As I wrote in a post yesterday, Bush is now out on a limb.

To mobilize a considerable part of the American public, Bush and his team oversold an idea that was questionable at the outset but has by now certainly outlived its usefulness. The Administration now has to engage in a sleight-of-hand -- it must shift goalposts and policies to ones that are far more realistic, promising and sustainable internationally, while maintaining the unquestioning loyalty of a critical domestic constituency whose support is premised on that core idea.

I don't expect Bush's re-enforcement of the old and tired GWOT brand to have any substantive impact on the Bush Admin's strategic redirection. What we will see, instead, is an increasingly artificial domestic marketing program that becomes further disconnected from the reality of both policy objectives and outcomes. Bush's "credibility gap" is going to widen even further, much to the distress of the US military (and, I'd assume, Rumsfeld and Rice). But the principal audience for the GWOT brand isn't bothered by cognitive dissonance and a "credibility gap." And Bush needs that audience to survive the years of unpleasantness he's facing in Iraq as the US military tries to stage-manage a gradual withdrawal while avoiding a complete collapse of Iraq into anarchy, with all its dreadful implications for regional stability and international jihadism.

My bet: Expect that both policy and speeches to international audiences will continue to develop the (implicit) GSAVE approach. But also expect to be fed a regular diet for domestic consumption of (explicit) GWOT rhetoric from the White House.

"No one checked with me." 

Stunning...I don't know why this still floors me time and time again when I hear how far out of the loop the President's handlers appear to keep him.

The White House, including the First Lady, evacuated as a Cessna  enters its airspace? No need to tell the President, no need to disturb his bike ride. And the President doesn't bat an eye.

We're attacked on 9/11 and Bush is told to stay seated in front of the children by Ari Fleisher raising a sign from the back of the room, and later is kept from returning directly to Washington, D.C while Dick Cheney makes all the decisions. And the President doesn't seem to mind.

And this is the 'most powerful man on earth'? 

 

I like that phrase even better than the wording I was originally going to use, which would refer to their right hand and their other right hand.

It's hard to blame Bush and the political wing for not liking the new branding. If voters buy into it, it'll tend to favor Democratic presidential candidates. Won't it? I mean, everyone knows Republicans are good at fighting wars and generally kicking ass but if your mission requires coalition-building, public diplomacy, and all that soft power stuff a Dem's your man.

(It probably goes without saying that I don't believe this, but most voters do.)

Here is a shorter way of putting this change:
"So in other words all that stuff John Kerry said that we ripped him for and called him soft on terror.  We'll actually that is what we need to do."

General Casey (I think it was him?) said it last week -- the problem with the notion of the "war on terror" is that it assumes the military is the solution.


I believe that was Myers.  


I sure would like to know the back-story on how W got left out of the loop on GSAVE.  I wondered, when GSAVE first surfaced, how he felt about being demoted to a Struggle President -- apparently they didn't ask him about it.  Assuming that is the case, what's the 1/2 life of GSAVE?  

Neither GWOT and GSAVE are an end, but rather both are means to an end, that end being to foster one party rule, and establish the USA as the ONLY global superpower before the opportunity vanishes. GWOT has fulfilled its primary purpose of instilling enough doubt and fear to grant the President war powers beyond what the constitution authorizes.
 
As time passes and events unfold, new strategies are suggested much in the way an athletic team changes strategies at halftime to better respond to its adversary’s tactics. While undoubtedly some events did not unfold as expected. I believe it would be a serious mistake to assume incompetence. We must remember that Joe Wilson, Rep Waxman, and the IAEA forced the administrations hand in perhaps invading Iraq prematurely. The fact that intelligence was “fixed around policy” was about to be unambiguously exposed. I suggest we recognize the supreme skill with which the administration was able to pull off this blatant lie, as Paul Wolfowitz has suggested.

The difficulties, both in Iraq and at home, now suggest a different strategy. Struggle implies a vague objective, less amenable to benchmarks, and allows troops to be brought home (either in reality or in illusion) as warranted to reflect recruitment challenges, public unrest, and 2006 election requirements. Against allows one the ambiguity of being against, or for, depending on whether one emphasizes the acronym in part, or it total. Violent continues to justify extra-constitutional measures, and the ability to switch seamlessly between GWOT and GSAVE . And as George Lakoff suggests, Extremism may well have been especially carefully chosen, to “allow for suppression of domestic dissent”, as the term has already been applied to environmentalists and leftists, and is the change that is the most disturbing and dangerous. And of course, GSAVE as an acronym implies that we are not inflicting harm ala Abu Ghraib, but are doing something positive, ala the USA or Jesus saves, depending on your perspective.

Rummy and Feith will not admit a mistake.  This administration does not make mistakes.


I agree that the WH is getting some push-back from the Pentagon - not from Rummy, but from those lower in the ranks - and also from the State Dept.  A little reality intrudes from time to time.


The folks in the Pentagon and the State Dept. will have a hard time getting Bush to abandon his war president role, so we may see more infighting within the administration.  The best hope now might be to keep Bush out of the decision-making process as much as possible.


The CIA might also be engaged in a struggle with the WH - again - because of resentment at being made the sole scapegoat for the misinformation about WMD, and because some within the agency are angry over the Plame outing.

 

But for Bush to accept the "Pentagon's view that the GWOT has failed and a new strategy is desperately needed" would imply an admission of a mistake, and as we all clearly recall from last year's debates, Bush seems incapable of acknowledging any form of policy error.

Oh, I don't know.  The people in the Bush administration have always seemed to be pretty adept at doublethink:

. . . the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.

--George Orwell, 1984 

A possible military recruit?

Why do I suspect he has "other priorities"? 

GWOT is doomed, the term that is.

Cynical me sees the Bushies changing the name in order to withdraw the military from Iraq. If its not a war, then why are they required there?

Just a preparation for abandoning Iraq before the 2006 elections, creating a reasonable talking point.

"What war?"

"Its up to the local goverment to lead the fight."

Now this clown has gone off to hide in Texas for five weeks. How many of our armed forces will die in his bogus war during those five weeks? Does he have no sense of what this obscene war does to soldiers? To our country?

Which raises this question: How seriously should we take the change?

I don't know about this, but I would like Bush first to take his CinC responsibilities seriously.  Marines are dropping like flies in Iraq, and he takes off for five weeks holiday.   A pretty good indication of how little he actually cares about these men and women.

You have said in quite elegant prose what I have been trying to say in other posts: there is a problem of branding. I was likening it the problem of Classic Coke vs. New Coke.

As I said here yesterday, the proof of the brand problem is Bush's own resistance to GSAVE.

I must say that I am skeptical despite Ivo Daalder's credentials that this derives entirely from the military and NSC. The argument that it has to do with setting the stage for withdrawal and decoupling Iraq from GWOT is too potent. I find it very hard to believe that Luntz and Rove were out of the loop on this.

As I said here yesterday, the proof of the brand problem is Bush's own resistance to GSAVE.

Anyone who thinks that John Bolton is working at cross purposes to the administration's new "multi-lateralist" approach just hasn't been paying attention. Multi-lateralism (as Bush's actions toward its ostensible allies in the coalition has demonstrated) has a different meaning for the Bush administration and the rest of us: it means boondoogling pragmatist regimes into supporting a US first policy. It's hard not to see Blair's decision to go along with the US as a concession to the fact that since Bush was going to go ahead, irrespective of the wishes of the international community, Great Britain might as well be on the winner's side (in a position to share in managing the outcome  -- i.e. to get a piece of the pie), remaining true to the long history of US-British collusion in attempting to control/manage the oil economy in the Middle East  (can you say  "Mossadeq"?). Remember what happened when Blair tried to use his so-called leverage with Bush? Nada, zip, zilch: this is the kind of multi-lateralism that Bolton brings to the UN, and the only kind that we're going to see in a Bush administration struggle against violend extremism: the assertion that US interests and policies are those of the international community, and that multi-lateralism means pursuing the policies espoused by the Cheney-Rove-Wolfowitz axis. Come on -- we've had more than four years to see how these folks work: the clearest of disjunctions between words and actions: preaching compassion, cooperation, non-partisanship while pursuing a single-mindedly partisan agenda. Do folks really think that when this administration says it's going to "work with other nations" it means that it's going to do anything other than it's been doing all along? Hey Charlie Brown, THIS time Lucy is really going to hold the ball for you without pulling it away. Really...trust me.

The answer isn't as obvious as you'd think, given who's driving the change. It's clear that this isn't some Roveian response to declining public support for the president and his policies. Rather, the driving force behind the effort to recast the fight against radical jihadism is the Pentagon, which has borne the brunt of that fight.

Who's driving the change?

The report is that this is being cast in the light that Rummy's original "snowflakes" have caused the Pentagon to re-think the overall strategy from GWOT to GSAVE?

I'll tell you who's driving Rummy and the Pentagon and everyone else to re-think the overall strategy - The US Army and particularly the Marine Corps. They're the one's fed up with the lack of direction from the Commander-in-Grief. Rummy's intelligent enough to recognize the key factors of what I refer to as a mini-mutiny developing in the ranks from the ground pounders all the way up through the Joint Chiefs.

As northstardon (#1)  pointed out here - relating to CIA etc. but I say also to the military:
Now, I suspect Rummy no longer has the power to run roughshod over the rank-and-file, and that Twisted Sister's "We're Not Going To Take It" has moved into heavy rotation on the Muzak playlists for the Pentagon and Langley.

In conclusion: The Pentagon civilians and their able-bodied PR department can spin this any way it wishes to keep this change as appearing to be that they are in charge (and they are) - but the behind the scenes machinery driving it down the Pentagon's throat is the uniformed members of the US Military. And the combined services as one voice are a very formidable driving force.

Once you lose the faith and there with it the respect of the military by not listening to them - you've screwed the pooch!

PS: to Hedley Lamarr (#29)
Now this clown has gone off to hide in Texas for five weeks. How many of our armed forces will die in his bogus war during those five weeks?

At the current metric of 2.1 deaths per day we'll lose approximately 73 more soldiers while Bush milks his horse...

 

"When the Captain acts as a scoundrel ...

... mutiny is not far behind" 

Does he have no sense of what this obscene war does to soldiers? To our country?

No, and no. I have seen nothing to indicate that he has any sense at all. In fact I am wondering why no one is pushing to get him replaced as mentally incompetent. I recall very well that we amended the Constitution just so that can be done. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any mechanism for such a replacement, no matter how deranged the president is, and this one is one mighty deranged individual.

Phew.  Last week, the USA was GSAVEing while the DLC was still GWOTing.  Nice to see order restored.  I'd hate to see Democrats accused of not getting behind their President.

At the current metric of 2.1 deaths per day we'll lose approximately 73 more soldiers while Bush milks his horse...




for that you get a 5.

I agree that the WH is getting some push-back from the Pentagon - not from Rummy, but from those lower in the ranks


I guess I don't lump Rummy in with the "Pentagon" -he's the political guy put there by the White House to run things.  In the same way, Condi is a projection of White House influence over the State Department.


Unlike Powell, who actually seemed to respect the career diplomats in Foggy Bottom, and took care to watch their backs as best he could (and look where that got him).

GWOT, GSAVE, whatever the hell these SOBs want to call their marketing campaign, let's just keep in mind that the 14 Marine Reservists from Ohio who were killed today burned to death when their amphib was blown up by an "improvised" explosive device that that flipped that big-ass mofo over twice before it landed upside down, completely engulfed in flames. 

"Improvised"?  I'd hate to see what they could do with something they planned to do that with.

Oh, right - this must be the "Battle of the Bulge" offensive of the "last throes" of the "insurgency."

May George Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice and every other Republican chickenhawk burn in hell the way these kids burned today for 20 eternities!

We don't need to parse their language anymore, we don't need to try and see if they're willing to "admit mistakes" and change their tactics.  They're the Enemy.  They're scum.  They're futhermucking pissants.  I hope they all die alone in the dark in the cold from a socially-unacceptable and extremely painful disease.  Actually I hope Moron-Boy dies with a .21 Blood-Alcohol and the residue of 2 grams of cocaine in his system, riding his goddamned bicycle over a cliff down at the pig farm he calls a "ranch."

Yes, tonight I am thoroughly pissed off at these bastards.  I know kids who have ridden in those amphibs.

I had stated:

At the current metric of 2.1 deaths per day we'll lose approximately 73 more soldiers while Bush milks his horse...
erasmus replied
for that you get a 5.

Not at the five (5) weeks that has been stated that Bush will be clearing brush... That's thirty-five days.

If the vacation time of five (5) weeks is incorrect - would someone be kind enough to let us all know.

I stand a salute you!

Making these kids (and any of these soldiers and Marines under 45 is a kid to me) run around the desert enviorns in those ancient vehicles totally unsuitable for the comabt these men and women are having to serve in... 

It IS tantamount to murder.

Again - I salute you! 

Well, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/04/politics/04bush.html ?hp&ex=1123128000&en=997cdd1d8ec001fa&ei=5094&par tner=homepage">that didn't last long</a>.

Turns out we're at war with Eurasia again -- sorry, we've always been at war with Eurasia.

What the hell? Why can every blog on the web manage to handle links correctly, except for TPMCafe?

Trying again: Well, that didn't last long.

"...don't include Rummy in the clear-headed thinkers here.


Careful, cscs.


When you drop hints about your possible employer like this one I worry about having someone from IMCEN frogmarch you out of your cubicle and into Rummy's office for a dress-down.

Can anyone come up with a single important European use of the "war on terror" phrase? I remember when in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 a group of officials in the Council of Europe in Strasbourg (a smallish intergovernmental human rights/political/technical assistance organisation), including me, had to come up with a broad-brush response. The result was this: http://www.coe.int/T/e/Com/files/CM_chair-sessions/session/nov-20 01/e_CP827.asp#TopOfPage.

Now hardly anyone in the various rooms this went through had specific expertise on terrorism, so we were all basically going on common sense. But notice how this rush job by a bunch of semi-amateurs still looks much, much better than the GWOT. The warning about not sacrificing core human rights values was horribly prescient.

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