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I hate having to admit that I was naive.  But perhaps I do.  I get the sense that the Senate Democrats just aren't serious about this whole opposition party idea. 

I was on the road most of the afternoon.  And when I got back online I was greeted with a stack of emails with some surprising news.

You'll remember that Karen Hughes was on the hill today for the confirmation hearing for her new posting.  And given that there's been a bit of attention (had you noticed?) to the administration's dirty hands on using phoney claims about Iraqi uranium purchases and subsequent efforts to cover it up, this was quite a good opportunity to ask Hughes some pointed questions for the record, under oath.

There's what happened in October 2002 with the 'Cincinnati speech', what happened with the January 2003 State of the Union, and of course everything tied to the eventual battle with Joe Wilson.

It's true that Hughes was back in Texas by the time a lot of this stuff happened.  But she's continued to be involved on a consulting basis and she was part of the White House Iraq Group, from which most of these hijinks emerged.  She'd know a lot of key details.  So get her under oath, ask specific questions, build a public record.  Make her evade the questions or worse, if that's what she thinks she has to do.

But when I logged on this afternoon, I got the word that no Senate Dems showed up. 

Didn't have the time, I guess.

So, just for the record, is everyone really on board on trying to hold this administration to account?  Being a tough opposition?  Serious about contesting the 2006?  Serious about doing the rigt thing by their country?

If the chieftains aren't, then a lot of us bit players could probably better spend our time fishing or going to a ball game.

Just let us know.


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Which is why we need to keep doing what we are doing, because most of these politicians are not going to do anything except run and hide unless the public forces them to hold these Bush administration officials accountable.

Not to mention the fact that, managing the State Department's public diplomacy efforts, she's going to be in charge of the U.S. government's efforts to improve the image of the U.S. in the Arab/Islamic world -- not exactly a minor portfolio in an era when fighting terrorism is one of our top foreign policy priorities.

just when some real reporters might have shown up for a few days, did a bunch of joe liebermans show up in place of actual democratic senators?

Here's the committe Dems....I am writing to Boxer (my Sen.) right now to demand an explanation.  I'd rather have her in D.C. holding the liars' feet to the fire than back in Marin County on a Friday afternoon.:

Sarbanes (MD)
Dodd (CT)
Kerry (MA)
Feingold (WI)
Boxer (CA)
Bill Nelson (FL)
Obama (IL)

I sometimes think it's not just the media that's a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Republican Party. The "loyal opposition" is suspiciously compliant--or is it complicit?

Im all for motivating the party to get tough on the Republicans and Im happy to see a small but dedicated effort by some Dems.

Instead of going fishing I think this occurance of a missed opportunity should convince us all of our role in the goings on in DC, that of political activists. I have often written here about my activisim in the hopes of opening a debate on activism and what role TPM Cafe'rs can play.

Hopefully Josh you'll agree that we can play a role and that he will broaden this blog's role to include activism. Preaching to the choir is good for the soul but we need to open the doors of this "church" and spread the word. How about creating a table dedicated to debating activisim and the role this blog can play in the political scene.

The grassroots should move the party and not wait for nothing to happen from party leaders then complain about it. 

Any word on which Republicans showed up? I mean it's pretty sad that no Dems showed up to ask any questions (I would have expected at least some token response to Hughes and the others), or at least taking the chance to score some big political points putting these nominees' feet to the fire about John Bolton, the memo, and all the things mentioned above. Was anyone there at all beyond whoever was chairing the meeting?

I understand how you feel, Josh. Coming at things from a centrist Republican angle (I know, I know, that doesn't exist), I'm always disappointed when our centrist senators don't take a chance to stand up and ask the tough questions and demand answers.

Sorry to see this happened - keep up the pressure.

- Jeremy (ChargingRINO)

I felt the same way yesterday when I read about the Senate Commerce Subcommittee meeting to hear testimony on global warming.

The new president of the National Academy of Sciences testified that there is now almost universal agreement that global warming is happening at an accelerated pace and that the cause is mostly related to human activity.

This was an important moment in the global warming debate, but I went on to read ... "Just three senators -- David Vitter, Republican of Louisiana; Frank Lautenberg, Democrat of New Jersey; and Ted Stevens, Republican of Alaska -- were at the hearing. All three shared concerns about coastlines disappearing."--AP

3 out of 100 on perhaps the greatest threat to Mankind in our time!

Maybe most Dems on the hill know they won't win any of this stuff and have decided to just let the voters take care of it next go around.


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Here's my email to Senator Boxer.  Anyone want to add to my list of questions for this group?


Dear Sir/Madam:
 
Please explain Senator Boxer's absence from today's Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Karen Hughes' nomination.  There is no excuse for Democrats not to be represented in the questioning of a nominee to a crucial diplomacy post when her record appears to be increasingly intertwined with the morally bankrupt White House Iraq Group and their lies and deception.
 
Please explain:
-Were you given a commitment from Sen. Biden that Dems would be represented?
-Did you bother to ask if Dems would be represented?
-Were you aware of new charges in the last 24 hrs regarding Ms. Hughes record with the White House Iraq Group?
-Do you have any intention of ever trying to create a Dem. Senate MAJORITY?????
 
Sincerely,
XXXXXX

So, just for the record, is everyone really on board on trying to hold this administration to account?  Being a tough opposition?  Serious about contesting the 2006?  Serious about doing the right thing by their country?


Someday Bartcop will get credit for having been right when all the wise heads of the party were wrong.

Look, most Beltway Dems care about one thing and one thing only: raising enough money from their corporate masters to continue getting elected. If their individual seats are safe, they ain't worried about trivial things like the future of American democracy.

People, the Democrats aren't our friends. They're our "friends" only because they are the only other game in town. But the game is rigged.

It's time to either take back the Democratic Party and make it a true party of the people or let it die and set up something else.

I can't believe this....

the Plame leak is the big story in DC right now, and all that any of the Democratic Senators had to do to get coverage would have been to tell a bunch of reporters that he would be asking Hughes about what she knew about the leak.

Hell, this was a perfect opportunity to get some information on the White House Iraq Group, and the ISG which was stovepiping intelligence to WHIG.

And nobody shows up?    Who the FUCK are these people?

<p>When I see flameouts like this on the part of employees I immediately suspect a morale problem.&nbsp; This happens for a variety of reasons, but my guess is that the individuals of the &quot;team&quot; don't see themselves as a team at all, plus they are working to different objectives and strategies. </p><p>So although I am always happy to see a Bush co-conspirator grilled on high roast, I can also understand that it might not be the best strategy for the Dems to follow, given how desparate the Repubs are to cast the Rove scandal as a partisan attack.&nbsp; I would forgo the pleasure of seeing Hughes squirm in favor of denying the Republicans one more talking point that gets traction with their brain-damaged but numerous base.&nbsp;</p>

That is indeed a very good group of questions.  Barbara Boxer has been a shining light in the Senate, and we owe  her a lot, but missing this opportunity just about uses up all of the credits she had amassed.   I will send her a similar email, and I am very interested in her explanation.

I can see your point, but the purpose of the whole Plamegate affair is not to "get Rove" but to show the American people that the Bush administration used fixed intelligence and phony reasons to take us to war illegally. Having several Democratic Senators grill Karen Hughes about her participation in the runup to war was a good opportunbity to drive home the perfidy of the Bush Iraq War machine.

While I agree with the sentiment of your post, I disagree that there is an alternative to taking back our party.  Starting a new party is another way to just give up, so that is not an alternative.  We have Howard Dean installed as a leader of the party now.  Our next goal should be to force those elected democrats who still don't get it, to pay some attention or find a new career.  This is a long term project, and we need to be long term workers on that project.

You wrote ... "We have Howard Dean installed as a leader of the party now."

Correction. The DNC elected Howard Dean installed as DNC Chair. That does not make him leader of the party.

The Democrats are in much the same position the GOP was in during the 1930s.

Bush's GOP, like FDR's Democrats, were vaulted into dominance on the back of a national crisis, and the boomer Democrats are every bit as ineffectual against them as Hoover's Republicans.

Sadly, it will probably take another several cycles of losses before the boomer Dems pass the torch to generation x, or rather several more cycles before gen x Democrats finally show the boomers the door, much as the Taft (lost generation) Republicans did to their Hooverite elders.

Generation x Democrats will be every bit as fiery, confrontational, and smart as the Taft cons were in the 1940s against Roosevelt, but by then it will be too late to obstruct Bush's legacy from being set in stone, much as it was too late for Taft and company to do the same to FDR's.

And more than 70 years later no small amount of what FDR accomplished, for good and for ill, is still in place today.

The only hope Democrats now have of toppling the house of Bush, and preventing the Bush cons from remaking this country in their image for the next 70+ years, is a mass popular movment of protests, civil disobedience, general strikes, and other kinds of economic disruption, a kind of velvet revolution to protect and defend what remains of what is good about America.
It should go without saying that the crucial political difference between the 1930s and today is that FDR actually had 2/3 of the people on board for his domestic program, and Bush has little more than 40%. A popular movement opposing his policies could actually be popular this time, and we are entering one of those rare moments in history when it might actually succeed. In any eventsit is the Democrats's last best hope.

Democrats, whether they know/like it or not, are in a fight for their national relevance.  If they let fear of handing the Republicans another talking point stop them from pressing a matter in which they clearly possess the high ground, what on earth are they good for?  Also, the Republicans will gin up talking points regardless of what the Democrats do.  The Democrats must do the hard work of putting these talking points down.
This administration owes its existence to the notion that it has integrity; Rove's behavior in the Plame matter - including his present coordination of his own defense from behind the scenes while Scottie and Dubya stonewall - gives the lie to that myth.  Republican talking points in his defense are absurd, and if someone would take up the challenge of demonstrating this by constant, clear, fact-based  rebuttal, the public at large would be able to see it.  Finally, even if Karen Hughes did not have a tie to the whole Plame matter, the position she is about to assume is significant.  Why don't our Senators give enough of a damn to show up and do their jobs? 

I had the same reaction when I heard that report.

In addition to asking, under oath, about various WH goings-on it also seems to me that the head of public diplomacy ought to be asked to swear, under oath, to follow the law and ensure that public diplomacy officers not engage in disinformation to foreign media, as this administration proposed to do.

I also think it would have been an opportunity to ask what if anything she knew about the Swift Boat Veterans; as an outside consultant to the campaign, with ties to the same TX folks who funded that obscenity, she ought to have been asked about possible coordination with the Bush campaign.

Finally, simply a matter of politics, she's close to Bush and so should not get a free pass on anything. The Rethugs loved to give a hard time to Clinton WH officials simply because.

I belong to a party that is adrift that with no leadership or focussd  message that is reasonable to mainstreet America.

Ever since the start of the second term, the Demo's have been handed opportunity after opportunity to start building a foundation for a rational alternative voice. Instead we have gotten ocassional bombastic statements  serving no purpose other than to make the party look like a group of half-whacks with resentments.

Despite the election results, I really think the Democrats came out of the election in fairly good shape ..just  dust ourselves off, be vigiliant in exposing the GOP'er games, and work on a vision for America's  future. To this point, we have blown it. People are tired of Bush, but we sure haven't provided the alternative.

Bottom line is I am a loyal Democrat, and hell, I don't buy the party these days....so why should others.

Howard Dean is, as I stated, "a leader of our party".  Of course he is not "the" leader, because we have no such person, nor can we have one until we once again win the presidency.  But, his election was a big step in the right direction, something I didn't agree with at the time.  I was wrong.

Is there a Senate recess going on? If so, who schedules a confirmation hearing during a recess.  If not, why are none of these Dems in Washington and doing their job?

Really good point Dan. How can so many senators be so oblivious to what really could be the most important issue of our times? And there's not even the excuse of it being a friday afternoon in the summer . . .

I think the Dems chose to boycott her hearing, and for a couple of good reasons:

1) They weren't going to get anything out of her.  The GOP controls the gavel, so she can stonewall Dem questions.  Sure, the Dems could use her as a pinata, and Karen Hughes is not cut out to play the mistreated damsel.  But it would still not yield much.  And more to the point:

2) Never interfere with your enemy when he has been invited downtown for a chat with the prosecutor. 

The WH and the Republicans want to cast this whole thing as just one more partisan food fight.  That won't make any difference to criminal prosecutions, but there's always the pardon power, and meanwhile they have to fight a political fight as well as a legal fight.

High-profile overt Dem involvement would make it easier to cry "politics," while on the other hand the independent liberal infrastructure - notably including the blogosphere - is proving quite effective at keeping the story visible.

It's truly pathetic, but the Dems have a miserable collection in the Senate.  All the old warriors are way, way past their prime.  The younger ones are a bunch of suits with no passion for anything but keeping their jobs and perks.  Yes, I know, tell me about Obama.  That's ONE.....

What is the simplest possible reason that none of the Dem Senators showed up for an incredibly important Friday confirmation hearing?  Is it that our Senators demonstrated their true colors:  they can't be expected to actually work on a Friday!

I will have nightmares until we hear their real reason.  And it better be good.  Otherwise, I will have no choice but to believe that they are all as worthless as the Republicans say they are.

Can't wait to hear the good news that something, anything was more important. 

(ascending soapbox)

Well, given the level of mercury contamination we can't eat the fish we catch up here in the Northland, and the Twins aren't worth watching this year if they can't beat the Tigers, so I guess I've got three semi-futile pasttimes to choose between. 

I'll stick with the good fight, and choose to believe that the "bit players" amongst us today are laying the groundwork for leadership roles in the near future.

(descending soapbox)

Give them a break.... Perhaps they were busy working on their campaigns for the 08 nomination :-|.

Paging Mr Biden.....

From WSJ, via Atrios:


Democrats plan to grill Bush confidant Karen Hughes about leak-case in her confirmation hearing for State Department public diplomacy post. A key department memo discussing Joseph Wilson's Niger trip was classified "Top Secret," and the passage about his wife's CIA role was specially marked "S/NF" -- not to be shared with any foreign intelligence agencies.


What happened to the plan?  This is pretty disheartening -- did the GOP pull a fast one?  You'd think Boxer would have showed -- she went toe to toe with Rice like a champ, I can't imagine that Hughes would have intimidated her.  I hope there's some kind of dirty trick behind this -- the chance to question Hughes under oath would be must-see-TV, Rove or no-Rove.  Please tell me there was at least one and he/she asked something substantive.  All we really needed was one with Boxer's cahones.

From Today's Washington Post:

John Harwood (subscription required) writes in the Wall Street Journal that Democratic strategists have concluded that Bush's nomination of John G. Roberts Jr. to the Supreme Court "may be unstoppable, and look to maintain earlier momentum from CIA leak case and other issues. . . .

" 'Our strategy now is to essentially let Roberts go . . . then get back on Rove, Social Security and the Iraq war,' says a senior Congressional aide."

Harwood adds: "Democrats plan to grill Bush confidant Karen Hughes about leak-case in her confirmation hearing for State Department public diplomacy post."

There were only two Republicans that showed up, Voinovich and Lugar, and I gather that the committee will meet on Tuesday when the hearings will begin for real.

So it might not be quite as bad as it looks.

If Dean continues to keep his mouth shut and raise money, he may be okay. Time will tell.

The hearings don't start in earnest until Tuesday. All they did today was exchange howdy-dos.

If you want a lot of people to watch, it's better to start the show on Tuesday rather than Friday, when people are spending the night out or maybe even going out of town for the weekend.

Everybody is so quick to bash the Democrats that they don't even bother to find out what's going on.

It's good to hear that we've got another bite at the apple -- who knows, by Tuesday, there might be more interesting questions to ask -- everyday brings new tidbits.

 How can so many senators be so oblivious to what really could be the most important issue of our times?

Not oblivious - that implies they aren't intelligent. Let's at least give them the beneifit of the doubt on that. They must have a different set of priorities. Something to do with dividends, campaign contributions, protecting the status qou? I'm glad to hear people - especially Josh - begin to question whether Dems are our ally anymore.

Yes, the lack of attendance at the global warming hearing is a sad commentary.  So is the news report's apparent failure to point out that Ted Stevens is a staunch opponent of meaningful global warming policies and the science behind it.


I wouldn't beat up on legislators too much, however, because their priorities significantly reflect those of the media's.  For example, Josh has hardly made global warming his banner issue.

Our system is jury rigged to be two party.  The *only* other times third parties have succeeded in becoming important is during times of severe civil disruption, a la the civil war and the Republican party.

 You want to form another party that will win?  First start a civil war.

" 'Our strategy now is to essentially let Roberts go . . . then get back on Rove, Social Security and the Iraq war,' says a senior Congressional aide."

Sounds familiar.  Isn't that how we found ourselves in Iraq...the Dems wanted to get past the Iraq war resolution so the could focus on the economy for the '02 elections? 

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The Dems lack the killer instinct. They are constitutionally unprepared for hand to hand combat.

They need a DeLay or Rove type, without the criminality, to discipline them.

Paging Rahm Emanuel... 

 

Sorry, but calling the senate democrats feeble at opposition is starting to sound like the rantings of an elite who are out of touch with reality.. sorry that they aren't sitting in abeyance at your particular beck and call Josh.. but there ARE actually thousands of issues that are important that democrats, including those on the foreign relations committee are dealing with, including today. Take John Kerry for example.. he has been standing tall demanding Roberts give a full accounting, he's gone after Bolton, he's spoken out against Rove's treasonous outing of Valerie Plame, and the potential concerns this could cause other CIA operatives... plus much more.. but there are other issues that he's taking on. Perhaps this isn't sexy enough for you, but are you aware that the Bush administration is attempting to force a LNG tanker port on a heavily populated working class community in Southeastern Massachusetts? Sure, it's not your neighborhood, but the tens of thousands of people, their children, their lives, their safety and health which would be put at risk because Bush and his cronies don't believe the people and their representatives shouldn't have a say in the matter.. well, it's extremely urgent. There are other urgent issues, such as the defense spending bill the right wing, headed by Frist is attempting to stifle debate on.. again, perhaps not sexy enough for you.. but it's important to those who are serving or who have loved ones serving in Iraq, Veterans who are losing benefits, their health care gutted. CAFTA, and the loss of desperately needed manufacturing jobs. Social Security, the health care crisis, funding for public education and aid to higher education.. perhaps not huge priorities to the elite classes, but life and blood issues to those not living above the glass ceiling. Our nation is facing being torn apart by the immigration issue, and democrats are attempting to be a voice of rationality and calm..

Yes, Karen Hughes should not be getting this appointment, but I do not delude myself into thinking this is the only issue at the fore. The democrats are outnumbered in the house and senate.. they cannot overcome their lack of numbers, and win the day at everything. I watch CSPAN I & II nearly every day.. and see the fights for so many issues go on. It's intellectual dishonesty to pretend that democrats can be effective across the board when you know they are outnumbered. Frankly, your rhetoric is the same as that of those who rationalized that the differences between democrats and republicans wasn't important enough to matter back in 2000 and in '04.. face it, we wouldn't be facing all this had the educated, elites who were so out of touch felt they could afford to ignore the differences not acted so ignorantly.. I expect a bit better of you Josh than to make such blind pronouncements.

I think that you greatly overestimate the strength of hte Republican party in hte 00's.  They achieved narrow presidential and congressional victories in '02 and '04 by skillfully eploiting 9/11 and by completing the transition of the south from a Dem stronghold to a Repub stronghold.

The analogy I prefer is to the Dems in the 60's. The combination of Viet Nam and social unrest ended the Dem era of dominence and a combination of the Iraq war, overreach by the Christian Right, and a mediocre economy vs. the Clinton years give us an opportunity to bring the end to the era of Repub dominence.

Quick Question:

Are we sure that the Dems were properly informed of the date/time of the hearings ahead of time?

If this thing was scheduled only a day or two in advance, not many Senators of either party can get out of weekend commitments on short notice.

I think there is at least some possibility that the hearings were planned so that no Dems would attend. Let's face it, such schedule voo-doo is not unheard of in this GOP leadership.

If this was a setup, blame the Dems for having been fooled again, not being too lazy or too self-interested to attend the hearings.

Actually, Bush, Rove, Rumsfeld, etc. seem to be doing a pretty good job of attempting to start one.

Thank you for bringing a rational explanation to why no Democratic Senator was present to question Hughes yesterday.

I hope that the defeatism I see on this thread is not typical of Dem activists.

Not only did no Democrat bother showing up at the first hearing session, one of our "leaders", Senator Biden, actually sent a "love letter" endorsing Hughes for the job.  Way to go Joe!!  Please, do go.

there may well be a good explanation for the no-show, but there has obviously been no communication about it

Feingold knows how to blog - he has posted at dailykos -

it shouldn't take any brains for those who aspire to be leaders to let their most aggressive and activist troops know what the fuck they're doing

the absence of communication with party activists is bad enough

but Biden's valentine was pure puke material

"I think that you greatly overestimate the strength of hte Republican party in hte 00's.  They achieved narrow presidential and congressional victories in '02 and '04 by skillfully eploiting 9/11 and by completing the transition of the south from a Dem stronghold to a Repub stronghold."

1) The threat of Islamist terrorism isn't going away, and is not abstract the way that the cold war was. We could withdrawal from Iraq (although we probably won't; see point 2) but the threat will still be present. Of course we shouldn't underestimate the psychological impact on conservatives and moderates of losing the war in Vietnam (it was no small part of the reason Reagan was elected) but at the same time Reaganism and endless cocked up Vietnam revenge fantasy films is a whole lot less sinisister than what the Bush cons are doing to this country.

2) A draft is more likely than a withdrawal from Iraq, and if you don't think the American people will accept it go read that post over at Kevin Drum's shack about how New Yorkers are responding to random searches. Also, go get yourself a copy of Millenials Rising or the Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe. The millenials are not the boomers, and will go submissively to the slaughterhouse.

3) Bush is already well on his way to stacking the courts, so in the unlikely event that a Democrat is elected president in 08 it will be too late to prevent a multi-decade legacy of Bush.

4) If you don't like the 1930s and 1940s analogy of one-party dominance, try the 1860s and 1870s instead. The GOP had a much smaller majority than the Democrats did in the FDR/Truman years (remember Tilden v Hayes?), but it was still essentially a one-party government, and the Republicans still succeeded in remaking the country in their image for a number of decades to come.

If Dan Wingfoot kept his mouth shut a little more, he might end up being OK. Only time will tell.

The Democrats are always able to scrape up a rational explanation for their failures. We will see on Tuesday.

Sorry, but calling the senate Democrats feeble at opposition is starting to sound like the rantings of an elite who are out of touch with reality.. sorry that they aren't sitting in abeyance at your particular beck and call Josh.


Cut the crap, Mary.

Not a chance.

Beating up on Karen Hughes on a Friday is not the best allocation of resources, especially if anyother opportunity awaits next week.

They won't get much blood out of that turnip, anyway.

1) The threat of Islamist terrorism isn't going away, and is not abstract the way that the cold war was.


Picky point -- I don't think you can correctly characterize the cold war as 'abstract.'  The cold war was not just an exercise in rhetoric, there were real troops on real alerts and real nukes pointed at real people.  The cold war may not have had a lot of conventional combat (though it had its share using surrogates like the Afghanis), but it was hardly abstract.

"Picky point -- I don't think you can correctly characterize the cold war as 'abstract.'  The cold war was not just an exercise in rhetoric, there were real troops on real alerts and real nukes pointed at real people.  The cold war may not have had a lot of conventional combat (though it had its share using surrogates like the Afghanis), but it was hardly abstract."

Sure, but apart from perhaps the early years of the cold war the threat of Soviet ICBMs raining down on their town was not something most Americans actively worried about. During the cold war there might or might not be a nuclear war. There *will* be future terrorist attacks, and no one knows where, or when, or on what scale.

It's my understanding, from speaking with my Senator's office yesterday, that the Senate Dems decided to not go to the Friday meeting because it was basically an introductory meeting. That nothing of significance was to happen. However, they will be well represented when the hearings resume on Tuesday.

Let's face it, a Friday afternoon hearing at the end of July isn't going to generate that much press. It was a short, scheduled meeting & they decided to wait until Tuesday to get it on.

I am surprised about the global warming hearings, though. I didn't ask about that because I was unaware of it yesterday when I called.

Personally, I'm no more worried about an act of terrorism directly effecting me than I was about Soviet missiles.  Actually, I think I'm less concerned about terrorism than I was about communist nukes.  I don't buy that a terrorist attack is inevitable, probable, perhaps, but not inevitable.  If I lived in a large east coast city, especially NY or DC, I'd probably feel differently, I'm sure.


I'm just saying don't sell the Cold War short -- it is easy to forget the background level anxiety that pervaded throughout the Cold War.  And don't forget that soviet nukes were as much of a threat to the heartland of the US -- particularly areas with large military installations, as to the bigger cities on the east and west coasts, whereas terrorism is not as uniform a threat.

"Personally, I'm no more worried about an act of terrorism directly effecting me than I was about Soviet missiles."

I wasn't particularly worried about a first strike by the Soviet Union (although my mother wouldn't allow my sister and I to watch "the Day After" so that may have something to do with it), nor am I particularly worried about further terrorist attacks. One has a greater chance of being mauled to death by escaped zoo animals than dying in a terrorist attack.

But you and I are liberals, and those in the center of the political spectrum (or perhaps more precisely slightly more than half of those in the center of the political spectrum) and those on the right feel differently, which is why Bush won last year.

I actually watched this hearing (thanks to the streamng video from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's website) and was appalled at the absence of a single Democratic Senator.

In addition to Karen Hughes, Kristen Silverberg was also on the agenda to be confirmed as Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs.  Ms. Silverberg is a 34 year-old White House domestic policy advisor whose only foreign policy experience is a one year stint in Baghdad as an aide to Paul Bremer.  An obvious attempt by the White House to wrest control of UN policy from the State Department, but couldn't they have chosen someone less transparently unqualified?

Follow the link below to an excellent discussion on Steve Clemons' site on this issue:

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000787.html

Also, compare Ms. Silverberg's bio to the bio of the person she's replacing, Dr. Kim R. Holmes:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/silverberg-bio.html

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/biog/15447.htm

The comparison is not kind to the President's new nominee to the post whose main job responsibility will be wrangling John Bolton.

If the business meeting of the committee on Tuesday will provide an additional opportunity for Democratic Senators to ask tough questions of these nominees, well, fine.  But can't we all agree that they missed an opportunity here?

The crap John, is ignoring the simple fact that the democrats are outnumbered in the house and senate. That there are issues that are as, as well as those that are more important than what Josh posted about. Don't get me wrong, I am a long time fan and reader of TPM, but this trash the democrats at every opportunity crap (and yes, that is CRAP) is not only pathetic, it's only goal will be in helping Bush.<p>

Not too long back, alot of faux lefties were attacking democrats in the house because back in 2000 when the CBC held their walkout, that white democratic representatives didn't join them. The facts those who attacked democrats for that couldn't be bothered to have paid any attention to what was actually going on during that walkout.. or perhaps their income level left them feeling that the issues that were on the house floor (under repubilcan control) weren't going to affect them in any way?? The house republican majority were attacking federal funding for public education, and aid to higher education, and those democrats who were slandered for remaining on the floor, were actually holding the fort to fight against the gutting of funding for education.  Perhaps the faux lefties can afford to feel cavalier about gutting aid to education... but the people who would have been harmed by that, poor to middle class, the loss of a decent public education, and the lessening of their ability to attain higher education has horrible implications for them, their children, for a lifetime. Perhaps you feel, like your right wing brothers John that somebody else always has to make a sacrifice for your ideology.. not yourself? The right wing are content to send the poor and middle class to die in Iraq, and people like you would have the poor and middle classes served up as some blood sacrifice because they aren't important enough to matter? So much for social justice in the neo-progressive movement... I mean, back in 2000, in Los Angeles during the lead up to the Democratic National Convention, the coalition of homeless people asked that there be no violence as they wished to use the convention to draw attention to the plight of the homeless in the US. Rage Against the Machine found that very inconvenient, and decided to fly in to perform a free concert/hold and impromptu Nader rally, thereby drawing in thousands of jack booted "leftists" who threw clots of mud, commited acts of violence and destruction of property. Not much coverage of the homeless rally when you have the affluent, well fed, angry white males that comprised the Nader movement throwing tantrums about how drug legalization is needed now....

Get over yourself, and frankly, progressive is as progressive does.. and the fact that you find the truth inconvenient only serves to illustrate how weak your commitment is to the ethics and values that are what true progressiveism actually is supposed to be about. So you John, cut the crap.

The crap John, is ignoring the simple fact that the democrats are outnumbered in the house and senate. That there are issues that are as, as well as those that are more important than what Josh posted about. Don't get me wrong, I am a long time fan and reader of TPM, but this trash the democrats at every opportunity crap (and yes, that is CRAP) is not only pathetic, it's only goal will be in helping Bush.<p>

Not too long back, alot of faux lefties were attacking democrats in the house because back in 2000 when the CBC held their walkout, that white democratic representatives didn't join them. The facts those who attacked democrats for that couldn't be bothered to have paid any attention to what was actually going on during that walkout.. or perhaps their income level left them feeling that the issues that were on the house floor (under repubilcan control) weren't going to affect them in any way?? The house republican majority were attacking federal funding for public education, and aid to higher education, and those democrats who were slandered for remaining on the floor, were actually holding the fort to fight against the gutting of funding for education.  Perhaps the faux lefties can afford to feel cavalier about gutting aid to education... but the people who would have been harmed by that, poor to middle class, the loss of a decent public education, and the lessening of their ability to attain higher education has horrible implications for them, their children, for a lifetime. Perhaps you feel, like your right wing brothers John that somebody else always has to make a sacrifice for your ideology.. not yourself? The right wing are content to send the poor and middle class to die in Iraq, and people like you would have the poor and middle classes served up as some blood sacrifice because they aren't important enough to matter? So much for social justice in the neo-progressive movement... I mean, back in 2000, in Los Angeles during the lead up to the Democratic National Convention, the coalition of homeless people asked that there be no violence as they wished to use the convention to draw attention to the plight of the homeless in the US. Rage Against the Machine found that very inconvenient, and decided to fly in to perform a free concert/hold and impromptu Nader rally, thereby drawing in thousands of jack booted "leftists" who threw clots of mud, commited acts of violence and destruction of property. Not much coverage of the homeless rally when you have the affluent, well fed, angry white males that comprised the Nader movement throwing tantrums about how drug legalization is needed now....

Get over yourself, and frankly, progressive is as progressive does.. and the fact that you find the truth inconvenient only serves to illustrate how weak your commitment is to the ethics and values that are what true progressiveism actually is supposed to be about. So you John, cut the crap.

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The criticism last Friday may have been premature, but it was, none-the-less, accurate.

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