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Josh and I just finished a brown-bagger on Social Security at The Century Foundation with about 100 summer interns working for NYC non-profits and offices of public officials. Andrea Batista Schlesinger of the Drum Major Institute, who was one of the panelists (along with Hans Riemer of Rock the Vote), pushed all of us to think harder about how to define progressives in ways that would excite young adults. Defending Social Security is all well and good, and so is opposing Bush generally, but what else can progressives say or do (beyond a platform of student loan forgiveness) that would resonate with 20-somethings? National service? Voter registration work? Expanding the Peace Corps? Anti-war? Or is it a bad idea to parse generations to begin with and better to focus on themes that resonate with everyone? I'm too old to have a clue, but most of the very smart interns at the forum didn't have answers either. Help?       


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As a 20-something, I think that progressives should create some sort of platform focused on balancing family/work (especially for women).  Under this platform could fall a whole host of progressive ideas: student loan forgiveness, family leave policies, minimum wage, health care, etc.  Most 20-somethings are getting started in their careers, and are also beginning to create families of their own.  I think progressives could do well to focus on the particular stresses faced by 20-somethings in this area because it's something that they can tangibly relate to (as opposed to say, Social Security). 

Environmental issues resonate with younger voters.  Also, I think a big one that the Democrats ought to making a lot of noise about is a free and open Internet.  The free flow of information is a nightmare for the corporate predators and the BushCo fascistas.

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As a 20 something I would love a national program that helped me to decide what in the hell to do with my life.  So, yeah, the peace corps expansion sounds cool.  Something a little broader though.  Are my learning years really over just because I graduated from college?  I sure as hell hope not, and I think it would be great if more programs existed (hell maybe there are already is one) that bridge the gap between an undergraduate education and going out into the working world.  A national life long learning program called, "Americans for less dumb adults". 

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it's called law school.

I'm on the older side of twenty-somethings (28 now; 29 in October), but I'll take a crack at this with a question of my own.  When you say "twenty-somethings", who are you looking to attract?  People who may vote Democratic but don't feel much party loyalty?  Folks (like me) who voted for Nader in 1996 or 2000 but supported Kerry in '04?  People who might trend towards progressive points of view but don't see much point in voting?

I honestly have no idea about how a national service program would fare -- as a generation, it's not something that we're accustomed to, and while I suspect that it would be a good idea in the abstract, I also never signed up for the Peace Corps or AmeriCorps or the military -- so I'm probably not the best authority on the subject.  I think economic uncertainty is definitely something that affects nearly everyone I know -- in terms of retirement (something I've just begun to think about), housing, whether the jobs we work will still exist in this country in five or ten years, etc. I don't know what the best way to address this is; to some extent, I think it's easier to show than to tell -- in other words, a sweeping policy change actually has results, while a campaign promise is far less concrete.  And, given that progressives aren't in a position to make that sort of gesture or change right now, I'm not sure how best it could be accomplished...

 -Toby


I'm in my mid-20s, and all my 20s friends are very concerned about health care, especially when they lose their jobs.


I'd also add student loan stuff to the list -- a few of my friends are in/were in AmeriCorps, and maybe expanding that would be useful.


Also: Democrats that speak up (liberals AND moderates) are good too -- even my right-leaning friends respect the more vocal of the Democrats, and those who I watched the Presidential debates with really enjoyed the few times where Kerry actually nailed Bush.


Strong stands against "evil" Hollywood media that's "corrupting" kids do not work well, and probably reverse a lot of goodwill that these politicians gain in other areas.  It seems tool-ish to nail the content producers, when it's really the parents' responsibility to watch their kids.  If Dems did want to take a stand in that area, focusing on work/life balance and allowing parents time to be good parents would work well.

Regardless of the message, Twenty-Somethings need to be targeted via the Internet.

Expanding the Peace Corps is a great idea, but what young people really want is to get involved from home. Offering a way for people to be progressives from their email, cell phones, and web browsers is essential. I emphasize "be" because there are already plenty of ways to learn about being a progressive, just not ways to take action as a progressive.

As for message, I think Twenty-Somethings are drawn to two opposing ideas: they want the government toleave them alone to be free and make their own decisions NOW, but they want the government to be there for them when they need it in the future. This is one major reason the current "no-brainer" Social Security system is so popular among young people. Universal healthcare is another "no-brainer" program that young people would rally around. With all the new things being thrown their way after school, people often don't consider healthcare a major priority NOW.

Just as our lives are already being synced to Blackberry devices, I think people want to feel like the government has a program to take care of them that is user friendly and automatic. A party that "syncs" to a person's daily routine will be successful.

Finally, the Internet should be used to answer this question. ACT, MoveOn and the Blogs should be working together not only to broadcast a message, but to create a forum for people to develop a message for themselves. The technology is out there already to do this, Progressives just need to put it to use at all times, not just in election years.

 

For starters, I would draft a program to do the one thing you took off the table, namely, addressing the burden of student loans.

I'm well past being a young anything, but I work with a lot of twenty-somethings daily, and the debt incurred for college is one of the most frequently discussed topics among the youngsters when I overhear them talking about the future. So, here's what I think Democrats should do ...

Adopt a program of college tuition credits to be earned by students from grades 1-12.

The idea would be to have every student enrolled in a federal education account the day they are enrolled in first grade. Tuition credits would be earned by passing courses. More could be earned by making good grades. Upon graduation, the student could use the tuition credits for traditional college or vocational training. The program would be designed so that an average student would accumulate enough tuition credit to be able to attend a state college for 4 years.

What about those who are already enrolled in school, or who have graduated from college or vocational school and have loans? The program would be retroactive and would include those who are already enrolled in primary or secondary school, and those who already have student loans.

I know this would be an expensive program at first, but I think it would eventually pay for itself by making primary and secondary education more immediately purposeful to students and parents, and by making post-high school education universal for all Americans.

So, I would tackle the problem of student loans by making college free for everyone who earned it from childhood, including those who are already in the system. This would definitely make the Democratic Party the Education Party, and it would build on our tradition of securing the blessings of America for all.

As a "post-20-something" (I'm 30), I'll post my opinion on the matter:
I think what most 20-somethings 'want' is a promise that they won't be forced to lead a life of drudgery.
What that means:  they won't be forced to work a horrible dead-end job for health insurance, that they will have safety nets available if they want to take a career risk, and will not be stuck in one path for the rest of their lives just to pay bills.
In terms of Social Security:  there needs to be more focus on Social Security as a risk management tool, and a way for you to not have to work harder to support your parents in retirement, etc.  

I'm a twenty-something, so while I don't know if these issues are necessarily big twenty-something issues, I'll list them because I can.

1. For national security reasons, end the reliance on foreign oil.  And no, that does not mean drilling in America.  Let's put some real resources towards making solar, wind, hydrogen, and whatever else isn't oil work.  We're not that far off.  We need to start pushing for real change now (none of this "let's make 3% of all cars hybrids by 2030 crap") if we're going to avert the serious problems we're heading towards.  And those problems need to be framed as security problems--we cannot deal with Middle Eastern countries as we do with other nations because we would die a quick death without them.

2. Corporate ties to the government (i.e. corruption).  It seems to me that a serious reform movement to stop the outright bribery that passes for government these days could gain some steam.  Corporations make huge profits while the middle class continues to get squeezed.  Lawmakers continue to propose and pass legislation that benefits corporations and the very rich.  Coincidence?  Of course not.  So bring it to the people.  An argument like, "The rich are getting richer at your expense and it needs to stop" is not a difficult cause to get people behind.

These are issues that young people will get behind. Hopefully, these are issues that old people will believe in as well.  The Republicans are corrupt, and their corruption ties them so strongly to oil companies that our national security is threatened.  And while we're at it, let's not just run campaigns on this.  Let's actually follow through once we're in office.

The one thing I've learned in a decade or more of working with young people on political campaigns is that none of your suggestions will work. Generally speaking, with a few oddball exceptions, people of college age and slightly older wax hot and cold on issues. One day they're all over the Iraq war, next day they can only be reached on lowering the drinking age. You all know what it's like to be that age. You can't develop a reliable political base among that age group by working an issue. Any issue.

What I've also found is that, while response to issues tend to increase with age, response to leadership and character tends to decrease. Older people are immediately suspicious of character cults around popular politicians, and are very protective of the issues they care about (they've had a lifetime to think about them). Younger people may bounce from care to care -- and care about making money and friends more than any  -- but they do respond to genuine, not false, leadership and a definable character. That doesn't mean giving a campaign speech in rap, either. It means talking about core American values that resonate with people whose only hard experience with those values was learning them in civics class. Be broad, be colorful, be emotional, be real. That's the only trick.

College and Jobs.  Over and over again.  Progressives will make it easier financially for you to go to college and we'll make sure that good jobs, with a modicum of security are there when you are done. 

Most people are not really overly concerned with the environment or corporate tax breaks because it for the most part does not affect their daily lives.  College does for 20 somethings and jobs do too. 

Well, I may be an unusual twenty-something, but what drives me in progressive politics is that I feel guilty not doing anything. I wish I could settle and have a family in an uneventful life, but for me that can only happen if I address the great injustices and developing problems that our current leadership has created. From discrimination against homosexuals, intrusive religious influence, corporate corruption, environmental degredation, and dangerous international policies, too many things are happening that prevent me from being able to just settle down as a teacher, raise a family, and know my kids would have a similar content life. I can't let myself not try to solve these problems, if not for myself then for future generations.
I guess I'm not sure how to turn this into a selling point or if it is even something represented among others of my generation, but for me, this is the calling of progressive politics.

First off, I have to make the fundamental caution against chasing down issues for every conceivable demographic group.  Things that are good ideas are good ideas for everyone.  (Oh, and I'm 29, so I guess I still qualify.)

 That said, here's a couple of ideas:

National service: I think a call to service would go over very well, particularly if it were associated with student loan forgiveness.  Go beyond just the uniformed services, Peace Corps, Americorps, and Teach for America.  Institute a Corps of public safety officers, with pay similar to entry-level military enlistees, to be allocated around the country to help out understaffed police departments.

Health care:  Millions of twenty-somethings are constantly going in and out of various health insurance programs as we move between jobs, graduate school, unemployment, and addresses.  When we take (yet another) shot at a health care plan, Democrats need to keep twenty-somethings in mind.  Some kind of safety net here would be much appreciated by many.

Public transportation:  Many young adults live in cities and like to travel, but may have any number of reasons not to want to drive, including the cost of buying and insuring a car, gas prices, and traffic and congestion (not to mention the general desire of many young adults to want to drink heavily).  Let's find ways to increase funding for both local public transit and for larger projects, like national high-speed rail.

Personal privacy: My generation almost uniformly hates the Patriot Act, largely because of the invasion of privacy concerns.  Taking a principled stand here on personal privacy in a way that did not compromise national security would resonate very well.

Here's a wild idea that may or may not work:

Starting at age 16, every American receives say $5,000 a year from the government, which is placed in a tax-sheltered account.
The money in that account is invested in a limited number of bond and stock funds and can be used for any of the following six purposes:

1. To purchase healthcare insurance or to pay healthcare expenses
2. To pay for education or pay back education loans
3. To purchase a first home
4. To cover dependent care costs
5. To provide emergency funds if disabled or laid off
6. To fund retirement

In addition, the government provides the following insurance programs for all Americans;
1. Basic healthcare
2. Basic income security
3. Basic pension (Social Security)

When you get a job, you will be required to deposit some portion of your income into the tax-free fund (say 10%). Your employer will be required to make a matching contribution (say 20% of your pay) in lieu of providing you with other benefits. Your company will no longer provide other benefits--just the annual contribution.

As you earn more money, your taxes will rise to the point where the amount you are paying to the government meets the amount you're getting. As you get wealthier, your taxes will start to exceed what you get, so you're effectively subsidizing people poorer than you. Tax rates will be adjusted to make the cost of the program break even. (Amount paid out to people each year will equal the amount taken in by taxes . . . poor and lower middle class people will be net gainers, upper middle class and rich people will break even or have a net loss, but everyone is protected by the same benefits if they fall on hard times.)

What does the 20 something get? The same thing every American will get:

1. A tax-sheltered savings account funded by a combination of government, company, and personal contributions that can be used for the biggest expenses we all face.

2. A suite of basic insurance programs that protect us if we can't work, if get sick, and when we retire.

3. A tax system that covers the cost of these programs and results in modest (but not oppressive) income redistribution.

There are no other social programs--all social programs are basically consolidated into this one program for efficiency.

Does this seem feasible? Where are the weaknesses? Is it affordable without excessive taxation? Is it appealing to anyone who is in the age group we're asking about? I'm twice 20 something, so I can't judge that, but it seems to me like a plan that unites rather than divides.

 

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How about recognizing that higher education is a key to the future and deserves public support. Yes, expanded student loan programs are good, but how about expanded scholarship programs, better funding from state legislatures and the federal government? A highly educated population is the route we must take to have any chance of maintaining our standard of living.

1. Health insurance that isn't tied to a job so we don't have to stick with the crappy job we've got or so we still have insurance when we get laid off (since we're the first ones to get canned when the merger goes through) or when we have to move across country to take care of Grandma or our parents.

2. Jobs, jobs, jobs. New industries, like alternative energy, could be really exciting. Opportunities to work and serve.

Environment.  I don't have any statistics to support this though.  It just seems to me that people in their 20s are more inclined to be early adopters of new, improved clean technologies hybrid vehicles and solar panels.

I think it's a bad idea to use the types of issues that matter more to older folks (Soc.Sec, Iraq war - sorry, young folks aren't paying attention what with the no draft/important other stuff on TV and all. Not trying to be flip, but that's just the way it is.) On the volunteerism front, people who already believe in this are already involved - a lot of folks are more concerned with making a living and figuring out what they want to do with their lives to be too public-service oriented at such a young age.
I think there are three issues, though, that could gain traction:
1. <B>Howard Dean</B> is the 20-something hero that he is because he speaks truth to power and is a BMF. Need more Dems like that.
2. <B>Free Trade/Jobs</B> The counter to the GOP "free markets at all cost" position on trade is that young folks are for free trade as long as there is something in it for us - i.e., if the government will help us improve our skills as it's signing these massive trade pacts, we'd be all for them; the current Republican, Darwinistic, "every man for himself" model is well on its way to disaster. Government skills/retraining assistance = college loan help = better commitment to education = a ton of progressive issues that fall out from that (everything from family leave to living wage etc.)
3. <B>The Internet</B> This one is easy. Progressives rule the internet. Keep it free. Support WiFi - as in, don't let the big telecoms make community WiFi illegal. The wireless age is coming on strong and Dems that embrace open access to the net will be remembered - it's where we get our music, how we IM about stupid shit like who won Survivor, stay in touch with family who we don't want to call, play interactive games, etc. 
Those three would be a great start. If you want the 20-30 crowd attention on Iraq, I'm afraid you'll need a draft. That's why no one wants to touch it.

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I'm a little on the far side of 20 - well, quite a little - but I would expect from what I hear and read that we need to address that generation's belief that the train has passed them by. No Social Security when they will need it. No good paying jobs after 4 years of college. No affordable health care. Etc. So, we should emphasize for them and everyone else, that honest work needs to be rewarded much more than the investment of inherited wealth is rewarded. That our country offers good jobs in many fields and does not simply send the jobs to India where people work cheaper. That the government will make sure everyone can afford health care insurance. etc.

I disagree with danbrod.  Have you googled "pollution disease illness"?  You'll be surprised that air pollution greatly affects health.

And regarding providing stable employment - i think that's an overclaim that they would see through. 

"were going to give you jobs, and jobs that have a modicum of security"...  How are we going to give them jobs?  And how are we going to give them tenure, and even more dubious claim.

I think something generic like "Getting America Back on Track" works - because times were much better during Clinton's reign.  But many savvy voters know that the economy has its own cycles and timing. 

The Country has been de-railed with Bush.  This Iraq war is the largest and most obvious example of this. 

"Getting the Country Back on Track" implies that we had a track record, which we did with clinton.  And it implies that Bush has derailed our progress (in part true, in part balloney, since he inherited a down cycle in the economy).  Certainly bush derailed our progress on the environment, foreign relations, the deficit, the military (low recruitment figures), etc.

So for voters in their 20's, it was an especially frustrating time to be derailed so early in their lives.  I would focus on that type of generic message.

I think it's time Progressive Democrats created an ideological framework that supports and affirms our beliefs. I don't just think this will appeal to 20-somethings, but to people like me, too (40-somethings)...

Ideology helps you do a couple of things.  First of all, it allows you to focus on the positive outcomes of the policies. And it allows people to feel connected emotionally to the ideology. Because after the 3rd or 4th plank, you've sort out outlined what kind of person is going to vote for you... It's like painting an emotional picture that people can aspire to...

If you can create that ideology frame on all the major issues - Terrorism, Iraq, Social Security, Energy, Judicial independence, free press...

It's finding the positive way to articulate the message quickly... that's the key I think to exciting people, and motivating them emotionally, which is what we want to do.

Intellectual motivation doesn't work.

Create the perfect progressive Democrat, then 'reverse engineer' them to express their most idealistic, heartfelt beliefs on each issue - In 10 words or less...

If we can do that, we win.

If you're a twenty-something liberal, then the "high point" of your politically aware life is the Clinton administration.  And Clinton didn't even really do much of anything.  That's why most 20-something progressives I know have dropped out of the political scene; they're all convinced that nothing's ever going to change, and that the best they can hope for is somebody like Clinton, who will pass the occasional Family and Medical Leave Act, but will mostly divide his time between either selling out on progressive issues, or standing firm on progressive issues but failing to get them enacted.  So why get into politics?  Yeah, Bush sucks, but people are not going to get that excited about "not-Bush" (and even to the extent that they do, as in the last election cycle, a campaign based on personalities plays right into Republican hands, and further alienates those that aren't already invested in the system). 

So if you want 20-something progressives to get excited, convince them that you can actually change things.  Convince them that you can balance the budget long-term, or legalize gay marriage, or get us out of Iraq, or decriminalize marijuana.  Don't focus on issues like the environment or poverty where progress is impossible to measure, and the best course of action is not always clear.  You have to show them exactly how things can be different.  People need a clear goal to shoot for, or else they won't be bothered.

Oh, and P.S., another thing about the 20-somethings: we were all raised in the post-1984-Macintosh-commercial-era, an era of increasingly pervasive and sophisticated advertising.  We know when we're being bullshitted, and we're sick of it.  That's why Dean connected to this generation, because they could see his sincerity, his lack of spin.  As this generation gets older, they will demand authenticity from their politicians.  Cutting down on the focus groups and talking points (or at least keeping them "inside the beltway", and out of stump speeches and debates), will soon not just be good ethics, it will be good politics.

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Health Care. Right out of college we invariably end up in retail jobs with crappy-to-no benefits. However, we are no longer able to be covered by our folks.

Less corruption. The above poster was correct in this. There is already one party that represents the wealthy and greedy. If we wanted to vote for them we would. This means more than campaign finance reform. It means refusing money from industry lobbies as a matter of principle and running middle and working class people as candidates in elections. It means no more fancy dinners with high rollers.

No compromising on Choice. I cannot stress this enough. And no wishy-washy explanations, either. Those who oppose Choice already have a party, and will vote for it.

No more complaining about the media. Nobody really believes that the things that adults watch on TV  are harmful to children who don't even see them. It's not really about the children. Be sure and point that out. We already have a censorous, authoritarian party. And we consume a lot of media.

Support education initiatives that actually result in intelligent people, rather than just slightly below average but not abysmal test scores. And it would help if they were teacher-friendly. If you're going to make someone's life tough in the educational system, have it be school boards.

Most importantly, don't chase votes. It's obvious to everyone. Understand that "bipartisan" usually means Democrats capitulating to Republicans. If you change positions on something, do it on principle, not because you're chasing votes. 

 One more thing: stuff like the bankruptcy bill? Yeah, don't ever do that again.

 

 

 

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How about reaching back to Democratic Party roots circa the early 1800s -debt forgiveness.

Pass a law forgiving all College loans.  Suddenly almost every slightly middle class twentysomething will have an awfully big reason to vote donkey.

Heck, as a mid-twenty something I'd LOVE to see my college loans forgiven.  But I don't think that would energize my non-political contemporaries.  It will just be a great benefit.

The return of the draft is the only thing that will energize them, I'm afraid. 

That is what will really hit close to home.  Isn't that what really causes us to move, when our lives are impacted?
 

I'm over 3 times 20, but I would think that the most appealing issues come under the rubric of making sure there is a future--the environment, global warming, fiscal sanity, halting nuclear proliferation--but not from a detailed policy perspective so much as just an emphasis on making sure there is a future.  Second would be those coming under the rubric of opportunity--student loans, reducing the cost of education, affordab;e housing programs in general and programs for first-time home buyers, small grants or loans for business start-up etc.  Reopening the mobility escalators and reversing the trend toward a more rigid, class-riven society.

While I'm well out of my 20s, the younger folks I do talk to have no patience at all for the kind of timid wonkery favored by many of the regular contributors to TPM Cafe.  At least they know (or think they know) what the right stands for.

The moderate Democratic crowd seems so shell-shocked by Republican dominance that they don't notice that they now stand to the right of the mainstream.  Take, for example, the latest Zogby poll, at http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1007" : an astounding 42% of the public favor impeachment if it shown that  "if it is found that President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should hold him accountable through impeachment", and only 50% oppose. Bill Clinton's impeachment numbers were never that bad; more than 50% always opposed his impeachment. Bush is now an extremely unpopular president, and the moderate Dems still act like it's too scary to cross him.

Worst of all are the liberal hawks who talk about how a draft will soon be necessary. That's a way to guarantee that the 20-something vote will not come our way; you're talking about sending people to die in a war that should never have been fought. The Republicans, seeing their opening, would just lie and say they can fight the war without a draft.

Let's be the party that's going to end the war. Liberal hawks that feel the need to cover their own butts can talk about how the President lied to them if they like, I don't care.

 

Well, you sold me.  Are you available for adoption?  ;)

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One thing we might do is recognize the fact that we are living in a global economy. According to a recent Pew poll 68% of people under the age of 30 believe NAFTA and the World trade Organization have been good for the United States. Now I am not arguing that we don't have to reach out to rural voters who tend to feel left out of the New Economy. Mark Warner showed that talking about bringing the internet and better schools etc. into rural areas was great politics. But we can't be a protectionist party, we have to find ways to advance global commerce and uphold our values at the same time. The difficulties of this global era which extend from environmental challenges to terrorism are frame through which progressive policies must be advanced. Lets use the global economy to argue for balanced budgets, universal health care and a new energy policy. Lets argue that this complex interconnected world makes it possible for terrorists to attack us even without the support of rogue states. This means that we must seek true Democratic reform across the Middle East and in Africa. By showing that we understand the world we live in we can get more votes from every type of American.

I'm 30 too, and I think you're exactly right.  A big issue for me, that started in my 20s, was that even though I really like my career, there's lots of other things that I like that don't, er, make any money.  My job, which is a fortunate one and affords me a comfortable lifestyle that I shouldn't complain about, will NEVER give me the freedom to throw myself into non-commercial goals without taking a real lifestyle hit.  And, the thing is, I'd be okay with taking a lifestyle hit if it were just me, but... I have enough of a sense of responsibility to not drag a wife or potential kids into it.

And I never see anybody, on any side of the aisle, talk about "work" by which they mean "work for money" as anything other than the primary driver for life.  I admit, it's important and, in many ways good.  But there's more to life than that, surely.  If government is a tool for organizing life, shouldn't it recognize that? 

Here's the thing about twenty-somethings:  we don't know what we want.  Lots of us are working jobs we hate in expensive cities, trying to pay off student loans as we watch home prices grow steadily further out of our reach.  A lot of us never really chose the lives we've fallen into; we ended up here because the circumstances of our growing-up made us painfully risk-averse.  Our educational years, bookended by the Bush I recession and the dot-com bust, prepared us to be flexible professionals with generically marketable skills, but were so time-consuming and expensive that we haven't had the chance to figure out what would make us happy.

Now we can't leave our jobs because we need every penny we can earn to recoup our educational investment while retaining health insurance and paying the rent.  Meanwhile, our hours are so long that we don't have the time to go out and have experiences that might help us figure out what makes us happy.  Our problem is that our lives are expensive to us but cheap to everybody else.  Maybe this is always the lot of the twenty-something, but today it definitely feels like while we were working hard in school like our elders told us to, they were out spending our inheritance, and now they expect us to earn it back.

Education costs too much, the income gap is too wide, and cost of living is too high.  We're running to stand still, and we can't even figure out where we're going.  We are a generation in fear for our standard of living, and those of us on the high end of our twenties are worried for the life we'll be able to provide our kids.  We cannot afford to be bold or daring, and we don't have the luxury of taking up causes other than our own.  Make our lives measurably more secure, give us the mobility to discover who we are, and you'll have our votes for the rest of our lives.

Good points.  The Evil Hollywood stuff has got to go.  I think it also separates Dem politicians from younger voters.  When they criticize a movie, video game, tv show or song that I enjoy, I feel a major disconnect.

This is one major reason the current "no-brainer" Social Security system is so popular among young people.

Sorry.  I realize this is going to be both a purely anecdotal comment and an unpopular one to make here, but I've yet to meet a single peer of mine (late 20s) who honestly believes Social Security is going to be around when we retire.  And, no, I'm not trolling.  From the Deaniest of Deaniacs to former College Republicans with the nicely coiffed hair, from East- to West- to No-Coasters, I've yet to actually meet someone in the flesh who honestly believes they'll get anything substantial from Social Security when they retire in 40 years.

Don't reply with facts and figures to say I'm wrong; don't tell me if the Bush tax cuts were repealed all would be safe.  That's not the point.  Government has a serious image problem among twenty-somethings, and a big part of it is the honest belief that Uncle Sam will take a chunk of our paychecks for the next 40 years and all we'll get in the end is enough to buy a cup of coffee.  If you don't believe me, ask a twenty-something who's currently investing in some private retirement plan (not all of us are), e.g. a 401(k), what percentage of their retirement income they expect to get from Social Security.

The three big issues I see that are of most interest to twenty-somethings, because they directly affect our day-to-day lives, are:

1) the perception that we're paying into a retirement system we'll never get anything out of,

2) the rising cost of higher education and Congress's seeming lack of interest in the topic (see: Higher Education Act reauthorization monkey business), and

3) predatory lending, particularly relating to credit cards.

The theme here is money: young people don't have any, and we're worried that we're going to have less of it as time goes on.  No money to pay for school.  No money to buy a house.  Did Citibank just call again?  If I were to add another concern, it would be re: health insurance or the lack thereof, but that, too, is about money.   So what does one do?  As the saying goes, I'd write my Congressman, but I forgot my checkbook.

Today's young people want information.  They don't want government to say "trust us; we know the best way".  They don't want election challengers to say "no, trust _me_; I know a _better_ way".  Give us the unfiltered information so we can make our own educated decisions.  Want young people to pay attention?  Tell them not only do you care about education, but here are the numbers that show what X approach will do and why it's better than Y.  Etc.

Again, these are purely anecdotal comments.  But topical nonetheless.

I'll say something unpopular here, in response to the above post.  My mother, who is 80, feels that one reason Bush won the 2nd election is the big stink over gay marriage.

I'm not sure if she's right.  But who knows maybe there is something to it.

I think Democratic strategists first need to figure out exactly why Bush won his 2nd election.  Then set some priorities in terms of message / platform - leaving out the ones that won't get Democrats elected.

Gay issues might be one of these issues.

I'm not saying that once in office, Democratic representatives should vote against gay rights.  I'm saying I think fringe issues (defined as in the interests of a minority) should be quiet issues.  It's in the best interest of these minority niches of Democrats in the long run - it's no use to them if there is no legislation to help them.)

Heck I'd even say abortion is one of these issues - and a pretty big one.  I'd go so far as to say one or two traditional Democrat issues should be sacrified, in order to get the rest of what we want.  Abortion a good example of a sacrafice issue.  Better to get control of 90 percent of what you want then control over 10 percent which seems about what we have now.

It's probably true that we can't have it all.

Jeremy, take a hike. I don't mean that sarcastically. I write the guidebook used by most of the people who hike the entire 2174-mile-long Appalachian Trail from Georgia to Maine or vice versa each year. Such a hike takes about six months, and, for the most part, you are away from the clutter of the workaday world and living carefree in Nature with other like-minded folks who are on the same basic quest. It's a transformational trip for most of the folks who do it, a laboratory where you can meditate on who you are and experiment with who you want to be day after day, and, if you make a mistake or two, no big thing, you just keep on heading up the trail. To use an old cliche, many people find themselves in the process. You are correct, there is more to life than the nine-to-five-to-buy-a-BMW route to happiness. To find that "more", though, you will have to get away from the treadmill for a while and live simply, and that does take daring. Fortunately, it doesn't take much money. Check it out.

"Health care" is clearly a winner, but could we please talk about it in a positive way?  Something like "Assurance that no matter what, every American will always have access to basic health care."

I'd suggest we get a similar commitment to retirement: "No matter what, every American can look forward to adequate income to ensure they can make ends meet even after they can no longer work."

Loving all the 20-somethings chiming in here.  How can anyone doubt we will prevail with folks like this coming up the ranks?

It depends which twenty-somethings you're talking about. The current crop includes second wave generation xers (the 24/5-29ers) and first wave millenials (the 20-24ers). Both groups of cohorts have been leaning Democrat, but they have very, very different political orientations and worldviews. Second wave xers (born between about 1972 and 1980/81) lean strongly left-libertarian, and while they (or I should say we) tend to support a level playing field and things like universal health care, they/we are about as distrustful of government and its inherent goodness as the more conservatarian first wave generation xers. You want to warm our hearts? Keep our tax burden low, make deep cuts in the federal bureaucracy (automating and streamlining as much as possible; we don't much care for paper pushers or the unions who protect them at our expense), introduce genuine market forces into health care (as well as bringing universal coverage), ax all ag subsidies, cut corporate welfare, give tax breaks to green businesses, consider school vouchers (which we overwhelmingly support), strongly support civil liberties and criminal justice reform (not to mention an end to drug prohibition), and open markets and free trade. We do have a leftist streak, but we still tend to be diehard believers in what we heard as kids in the 80s, which was that government was the problem, not the solution, and we still want to believe what we heard in the 90s, which was that "the era of big government is over." We are cynics and pragmatists. Our motto is still "don't tread on me" and we mean it.

The first-wave millenials are a whole different ball of wax, and while leaning Democrat like their older (second wave) gen x brothers and sisters have a very different view of the world, and the role of government in particular. They lean liberal populist, or left-communitarian, tend to be much more trusting of government-based solutions to problems (and conversely more skeptical of market-based solutions), are much more accepting of authoritarianism (that recent poll of high school aged kids [who happen to be first wave millenials as well] suggesting a disturbing level of support for the idea that newspapers should have government approval to print stories was not a fluke, and accurately reflects the zeitgeist of these cohorts), and are much more civically engaged than their generation x counterparts. They are remarkably decent kids, and what they appear to want is taxing and spending and taxing and spending. And just in case it needs to be said the needs and aspirations of these two generations are very much at odds.

Yes, I think worry about health care coverage would be very big.  And when Mediscam kicks in in 2006, it will be even bigger, possibly the biggest domestic issue of 2006

Also -- I think that concern about the environment, an issue routinely underplayed in national politics, is astounding morally on the part of Democrats.  It's one issue where the majority of voters support the Democrats' position and the Repubs get very little support.  In that sense it's not like abortion -- where there are passions on both sides, even though most people are pro-choice.  I think the link between vigorously pursuing alternative energy and wars is important.

National service -- OPPOSING the requirement as a means to bring a backdoor draft, is important to the very young contingent of voters, moreso than 20 somethings

And I suspect that opposition to the war runs high.  Remember that group went heavily for Kerry in 2004, so the main issue is GETTING THOSE FOLK TO GO TO THE POLLS.  It isn't a matter of alienating the young, but of motivating them.  Tell them if you don't like the war, don't stay home.  And Democrats in safe districts should be vocally against the war.  I know that in close races,  Democrats will fudge, but I'll bet those who find they are in anti-war districts and run AGAINST, might be suprisingly successful, if they are consistent and rational.

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Health care and work-life-family balance are obviously two good ones.  They also help bridge the various divides that Matthew Yglesias disucsses in his post responing to this quandry -- for instance, "balance" policies should appeal to young parents as well as student-types who want to put off entering the "real world."

But there's two more issues that spring to mind.  The first is progressive taxation.  I happen to think that this a winning issue vis-a-vis all sorts of demographic groups, and that it can be an overall "framework" issue to differentiate progressives from the Right.  But it could have a particular appeal to younger voters.  First, twentysomethings tend to earn less than older voters.  The sales pitch can be, "we want to give you a break when you're just starting out, when you can use it the most."  Second, tax cuts on entry-level salaries can help young workers build assets.  What's worth more: a tax cut in your twenties, that you can invest for forty years before you retire, or a tax cut when you're a high-income earner in the last years of employment?  The latter might be larger in pure dollar terms, but it comes too late to form the bedrock of a nest egg, to go towards the purchase of a first home, or to be the first deposit in the kids' college fund.

The second issue has a narrower appeal: liberalized intellectual property rights.  I'm at the tail end of my twenties, and yet people my age grew up in a world where downloading and copying digital media was simply a part of life.  I'm sure that people ten years my junior feel even stronger about this.  The threat of a summons from the RIAA might not have the mobilizing effect of the threat of a draft notice.  But the issue could work strongly in our favor.

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Is this really a problem? Kerry hammered Bush among 18-29 year olds by 12 points. Compared to 2000, voter turnout was up by 11 points [pdf link] among 18-24 years olds and up 5 points among 25 to 29 year olds, the two largest gains. Turnout is still pretty low but if you can get them to the polls, young people overwhelmingly favor Democrats.

I disagree with ColoDem's suggestion that young people are not suspicious of character cults. It might be the case with young campaign workers with stars in their eyes, but most people I know don't have a lot of respect for political office and "leadership". Politicians are public servants who are there to get a job done - speeches are boring. If you are that interesting, why hasn't anyone heard of you?

Howard Dean is cool, though. He's kinda like that crazy friend you have who's smart but is always up to some wacky hijinx and pissing people off because he just doesn't give a crap. Awesome.

 

How about something really simple?




Progressives stand for a society which you will be proud to grow with and in which you will be proud to raise your kids. A society with opportunities to let you make the most of yourselves, to find meaningful employment at good pay, or to be able to start your own business, to feel secure about your safety, your health care and your old age. A society that will educate your children and protect your environment.  A society that will further fairness and justice here at home, progress in the world and that will be looked on with admiration by the rest of the family of nations.




Once we get that message across, we can start with specifics. Maybe the twenty-somethings have some specific ideas of their own.

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As a “twentysomething,” there is another central issue that I would like to see progressives embrace: ENERGY. 
Seldom has there been a single issue with such a critical and wide-ranging impact on so many crucial areas: national security, the economy (via the massive trade deficit, partially due to imported oil), and the environment.  Indeed I believe that the very idea of perpetual economic growth depends on a limitless supply of cheap energy.
 This is an excellent progressive issue because while a free market would eventually lead to increased sustainable energy generation, only government can smooth this transition and avoid serious consequences.  A wholesale change in the way we produce and use energy is a “big idea” that appeals to the idealistic spirit.  While older people can largely ignore a looming energy crisis, my generation will be forced to deal with it. 
I would love to see progressivism become identified with revamping the energy infrastructure.  I believe progressives should champion this cause – it is an issue certain to become increasingly relevant at some point, and it resonates with younger voters who believe their quality of life may not be as good as their parents’.  If framed correctly, this can be a big, positive effort, and a chance for my generation to be a part of something great that changes the world.  Solving the looming energy problem will be like winning World War II – it will define my generation of Americans.   
Don’t let the conservatives identify themselves with this issue!!  Liberals need to compete on the stage of big ideas, and this is where it should happen.  Win youth with ideas, with a positive vision for the future, not with pandering and political tactics.  Progressives and liberals can do energy right, but it will take something that is all too rare in today’s politics: real courage.
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Legalize marijuana.  I bet that would get 80% support among people under 30.

Lower the drinking age back to 18.  Again, probably 80% support.

Fix Social Security somehow; no one my age thinks it is going to be around for them, and we all see 15% of our paychecks going to pay benefits to people who are healthy and have much more money than we do.  Bump up the retirement age, means-test it somehow, and get the contribution rate below 10%.
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One more thing: win over those of us who are already politically conscious with ideas; then let them win over their friends come election time.  Much easier than getting those who don't pay attention to politics to hear a message.

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I second the posts from above highlighting jobs, education, and money. I am 6 months out of the "twentysomethings", but am still in school pursuing a PhD. My husband is a medical resident. Together we have over $200,000 in student loans. Anyone who can't afford to pay the tuition at law, medical, or graduate school has debt like this. We can't afford to buy a house, we can hardly afford to save for retirement, and we feel, like one person mentioned, "the train has passed us by." Housing prices are out of our league, gas prices are making it hard to commute, and we certainly can't afford any kind of entertainment. Rent eats up 100% (that's right!) of my husband's resident salary. I work while completing my dissertation to give us enough money to pay the bills each month. I wonder how common this is?

Interest rates on our student loans are rising. In a few years, we will be able to make enough to start paying back those loans--but it will take us a good thirty years. In the meanwhile,  we won't be able to buy a "starter home" because of our debt. We may be able to get a leg-up by the time we're in our forties.
For my generation, we were always told and always believed we would be better off than our parents. Certainly we're more educated (both of us are first generation college students and come from working class backgrounds ); but increasingly, we feel forsaken by our government leaders who would rather subsidize lobbyists and huge corporations than make our basic needs like housing, health care, and retirement security priorities.

So, any kind of student loan reduction would be a big boost--how can you even plan for retirement security when you've got the King Kong of debt on your back? If Bush and Co. want to phase out social security, they will be removing one of the guarantees we are all counting on--a safety net that will prevent us from falling into dire poverty after we've gone into poverty to get educated and then busted our butts to get out of debt.

Plus, phase out of social security amounts to a massive tax-break for corporations, doesn't it? If social security accounts are "privatized" corporations will no longer have to kick in their 6%. Do corporations need another tax break?

The housing issue affects all young people--espeically twenty-somethings who are looking for a "starter" home. Owning your own home is the key to the middle class. Without it, most twenty-somethings will be stuck forever on the bottom of the ladder, forever mired in debt; forever paying someone else's mortgage for them. This has got to be a defining issue for the Democratic Party.

Anyway, that's my two-cents. I am on board for social security--and as the new Rock the Vote campaign says, "I heart social security". I just hope that people realize that so long as we maintain social security the way it is: a social insurance program for everyone--then it's the one sure financial bet we can count on. Perhaps the only one.



Boy, I wish I could give you a 6 or a 10 or a 12 or something.... we are clearly living the same life (I'm 35 BTW).

After I had my daughter, I made the choice to go part time... a choice that absolutely befuddles the over 45 generation here.   I took a hefty salary cut... I mean six digits hefty... to do so, but I decided that I made enough for my family to live on comfortably and I wanted to see my daughter grow up.   Well, you'd think I spouted horns or something.

Don't get me wrong, I'm so incredibly grateful for the opportunity to do what I'm doing.   I think the problem that then Gen Xers and below face is the perception issue.... that not valuing work as a be all and end all is slacking, but we see a devotion to the $ to be materialistic greed and a lack of priorities.

This divide informs probably just about every issue, if you think about it

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First off, i'm part of the conspiracy crowd that thinks Bush through Diebold stole Florida and Ohio, just checking the crazy numerical anomolies shows that, but..... 

Bush won because of a more aggressive strategy that was willing to get dirtier and becuase of a more refined PR campaign that played on peoples anger points better than the DEMS.

Any time Bush got in trouble it was 911 chagned everything and we are fighting harder for the people that share our values...which transferred into Abortion/Gay Marriage....

 Just once i wish Kerry had brought up the environment or enron or corporate scnadals which woudl have resonated. Instead it was just "reporting for duty" all the time....

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