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Saw the Sleater-Kinney show tonight at the 9:30 Club and it was . . . awesome. Indeed, it was awesome despite the fact that they hardly played any of my favorite Sleater-Kinney songs which only made it more impressive. On a related, but more substantive, note, there's been an interesting exchange in the blogosphere between Amanda Marcotte and Neil Sinhababu about the incorporation of pseudo-riot grrl elements into the mainstream.


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Good choice for a show. You sparked what will probably become a good argument (note to self: people take feminism really seriously) about "feminist" music over at http://www.musiccherry.com about why the best female music has nothing to do with "feminism" as it's usually known.


Check out some Kaki King and Emmylou Harris if you're interested in more female music. I don't always agree with your politics (e.g., the SC's ruling on eminent domain), but we share taste in music sure so I think you'll like them if you don't already worship them :0).

Oooooooh, Emmy.  Chief among treasured possessions is my "Happy Trails, Tom" pic auto'ed by Emmylou.  
Anyone who can span Gram Parsons, Daniel Lanois, Buddy Miller, Dolly Parton, and Lucinda Williams, and make them all sound better has it, in every way, going on.  Oh, and she can write.  And produce.  Simply brilliant.

I remember taking my friends to see them in the summer of 96 at a queer community center in San Jose. Of course they rocked, but my friends thought I was taking them to see the gay talent show or something. There was this really cool Asian girl punk band from Solvang (if you know what Solvang is you know why this is funny) opening up for them, and Miranda July (who was at that apparently stalking multiple denizens of Olympia).
Ah, Matt, I so envy you.  I have now missed two straight Sleater-Kinney concerts in Washington, and since they are one of the few alt-rock acts I truly love, I am seriously aggrieved about it. 

But I had to deal with family things last night, and couldn't see my favorite band. 

You've been a salutory participant in the ongoing debate about cultural challenges to parents with kids, and have often acknowledged the generation gap between pop-culture consuming singles and their pop-culture fearing elders.  But you should also understand that among the burdens old-folks-with-kids face in navigating popular culture is that they can't, generally, take the time to go experience that culture at its best.  

I miss my "rock-and-roll fun," but can't do much about it.  I could "Call the Doctor," but when you're spending most of your time getting an 18-year-old son through the end of high school and into college, there ain't no cure for the summertime blues.  

Ed Kilgore 

I just saw their Chicago show last week.  I was really impressed by the force and power of their voices in performance. 

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They covered "Mother" by Danzig.  Nothing more needs to be said. 

She was (is?) also one of the more prominent members of Music Row Democrats, a group of Nashville singers and industry execs who helped raise money for Kerry and heightened the profile of liberals in country music.

One of my few worries about the creation of this blog supergrou (other than that it will end as quickly as blind faith or sound like asia) is that it will become to self consciously serious.  Thus something that is serious, like the role of music in feminism gets called Rock and Roll Fun because it doesn't concern social security or Iraq. 

Of course, since you referred to seeing a show, maybe I'm over reacting a bit.  But that is serious fun in and of itself.  I think this is a great post, as good as the one Josh lauded on the front page.  I continue to read Pandagon avidly in part because Amanda M intertwines music with her life so completely and shares it so well. I wouldn't have know what Le Tigre was were it not for this blog So please continue to put more stuff like this in the mix. 

Ed, you're breaking my heart!  Hopefully this will help:  Just Concerts is streaming S-K's 2005-02-26 Vancouver show.  The sound quality is great and it captures this tour the best out of all of the bootlegs I've heard so far.  Crank it up and embarrass your kids by dancing around the living room. 

I saw the NYC show at Roseland on Thursday and it was the best S-K show I've seen.  A Danzig cover!  The "don't like my guitar solo, well then f*** you" brilliance of going directly from Let's Call It Love into Entertain! And...and...Janet sang! 

Don't miss them performing Jumpers on Letterman Monday night. 

Benton, I believe "Rock and Roll Fun" is a reference to the song "You're No Rock and Roll Fun" by Sleater-Kinney, not a commentary on the relative merits of feminism in rock-and-roll to issues like Social Security and Iraq.  (You can download the song for free on S-K's website.)  I support your general thesis, though -- music, basketball, and vampire posts are a good thing.

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Ed Kilgore rocks.

They covered "Mother" by Danzig.  Nothing more needs to be said. 

I like heavy and alternative music.  I mainly like heavy, from Sabbath and Iron Maiden to Godsmack.  I just have never heard of Sleater-Kinney.  But if the song Mother was covered, I will give it a listen...

Emmylou puts her political self out there on a regular basis.  She was an unannounced performer when Jim Wallis brought his "God's Politics" book tour/revival to Nashville last month, and is a featured host tonight for a Harold Ford fundraiser, also in Nashville.  Y'all come.

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S-K's newest album has a very heavy sound, as did their live show (which I caught at the Moore in Seattle a few weeks ago). My only complaint was that I forgot my rock-and-roll earplugs, and I was about 5 rows back. I'm too old for that ear blast...

Mary Timony opened the show, and did a great set. 

Becks -- exactly. Benton -- definitely check out the song . . . it's brilliant.

Thanks Becks and Matt.  I will check it out This is what happens when you start to approach the big 40 and the little one has seized control of your pop culture existence.  I now know more about the wiggles then I do almost any other new musical development.   The hermeneutic circle closes, and once again I'm on the outside.  I think I'm supposed to write something like "Kids today....."

My only complaint was that I forgot my rock-and-roll earplugs, and I was about 5 rows back. I'm too old for that ear blast...

Never forget (to quote Ian Anderson)...You are never too old to rock & roll if you are too young to die. 

Heavy is good!!! 8-)

I have seen AC/DC, Black Label Society, Metallica (3 times), Rush, Suicidal Tendencies, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and the loudest concert I ever saw was The Kinks in 1982...go figure!!!  My ears are still ringing, lol!!!

To keep this OT I am going to give Sleater-Kinney a listen just based on what people have said here

In line with the recent discussions of youth, media, and morality -- MTV profiled Sleater-Kinney last night on it's show Subterranean and felt the need to bleep the word "gun" when they played the Entertain video.  The offending passage:

If your art is done, Johnny get your gun

Join the rank and file, on your TV dial

(full lyrics)  That's ridiculous.  I don't have children but I do have two younger brothers (16 & 13) and, compared to what's advocated in the lyrics of other songs, that's nothing.  Apparently Nelly can pimp out all the hos he wants but S-K can't make a metaphorical call to arms. 

This comes on the heels of a discussion my parents and I recently had about whether my brothers are allowed to have CDs bearing the Tipper Gore "Explicit Lyrics" sticker.  After much debate (with my father wanting to ban all stickered CDs and me arguing on my brothers' behalf) they compromised and decided that music with explicit lyrics is acceptable as long as the context is political or social commentary.  Yes, a total liberal moral relativism stance but at least it means I can hook them up with Green Day and the Sex Pistols.  (Oddly, they never paid any attention to what I listened to in High School...)

There seem to be some parents in this thread.  What are the rules in your households? 

Wow.  It is a great song. Made my day.   You're no walk in the park....  Behold the power of the blogosphere.

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