Keeping Memory Holes Safely Plugged
Tom Oliphant in this morning's Boston Globe notes--though not as sharply as I would have liked--widespread journalistic indifference as previous right-wing spin expires in one blaze after another One instance: the self-destruction of the scurrilous Swift Boat charges that stymied John Kerry last year. Oliphant writes: "For nearly a month during last year's presidential campaign, the news media and conservative activists trumpeted 'charges' that Senator Kerry's record for valorous service in Vietnam was a fraud. The absence of evidence, except to the contrary, was no hindrance to the attack machine's operation; and the presence of Kerry's records is no hindrance to a decision by all those parties to last year's outrage to simply stand mute today."
Another instance: Now that the Schiavo autopsy is public, Bill Frist gets away with denying that he made a "diagnosis" when he declared that Terry Schiavo looked just fine on video. Where are the then-and-now videos, Tim Russert?
Another instance: The Downing Street Memos, now widely belittled as old news on the part of those who loved old news when it concerned someplace called Whitewater, are still treated as crank stuff. Dana Milbank's hit job on Rep. John Conyers' hearing in the WP evidently demonstrates that he's a man of sage, down-the-middle discernment.
And the White House goes on saying whatever it likes. No feet, no fire. Where is Mark Felt when you need him?















Good points Todd!!!
I think in Frist's case his political opponents won't let him off the hook for the Schiavo "diagnosis". But the media reports on the of these "stories" and when allegations turn out to be false, misleading, or out and out lies I don't see the media setting the record straight. It harkens me back to all the build up to the Iraq invasion. Cheney and Rumsfeld were on all the shows saying they "had the proof" that Saddam had WoMD. After the WoMD lie was exposed as such the press went back to Cheney and Rumsfeld for an explanation of their comments. Both of them then denied that they made such assertive statements about Saddam's weapons program. The footage of them making the statements was dug up. The proof of their mistatements was only marginally covered by the media. I don't get it. The press does all this leg work to uncover lies by people in government and when they get the proof they do nothing with it...WTF???
June 19, 2005 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Bill Frist comes to my town, I will protest outside, dressed up as a duck. In my hand will be a sign that says "Quack".
June 19, 2005 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the answer to this problem is that progressives/liberals/moderates should bombard the mainstream media with our outrage that they continue to ignore important issues and topics. After all, that's the way the wingers grab headlines: They repeat things over and over and over until the press takes notice.
Although the progressives blogs do a good job of focusing attention on topics such as the Swift Boat Liars, social security, outrageous statements from wingers, etc., most people don't read the blogs. Each of us should make it a habit of sending letters, e-mails or phone calls to the major networks, papers, etc. when important issues are ignored.
June 19, 2005 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have long believed that we need to have full financial disclosure for news organization and for editors, reporters, commentators, and pundits, for both print and electronic media. "Follow the money" was a good rule for exposing the abuses of Watergate, and knowing where the money comes from would be a good way to understand (and perhaps eventually stop) what is corrupting the media now. I would also like to see a law prohibiting foreign ownership of media. A free and independent American press is integral to the functioning of our uniquely American system as a democracy.
June 19, 2005 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent points.
However, it seems about time that we stopped relying on the Russerts of the world to take care of this for us. They don't do it. They haven't done it for a long time.
The Internets could help -- not only blogs like this but maybe some bigger money operations who can afford to host juxtaposed videos and the like. I admit, that reaches a tiny minority of the population, and so we need to pressure the good old MSM to do it's job, but...
This is the same MSM that thinks the Downing Street Memos were old news. There's obviously a resistance on the part of the talk shows and the newspapers to doing this for us. It seems time to face that Russert won't do this for us.
June 19, 2005 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tim Russert mentioned Frist's mis-diagnosis of Terry Schiavo this morning when interviewing with John McCain.
June 19, 2005 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Saddest for me is the virtual silence of our once-proud Washington and New York news dailies. From their ombudsmen we hear that since they are bombarded from both sides, they surely must be acting even-handedly. But, one wonders what outrage it will take from this vulgar, selfish kleptocracy now in power to make them get off their cozy fences. Each day sees another incident of edited reports, cuts in public services, scaling back of oversight, and worst of all, the bald telling of lies.
June 19, 2005 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, the RW in the media are like a giant embodiment of a troll, a kind of 'corporate freeper'. Freepers and trolls, mostly RW, indeed reflect the same mentality that animates the media under discussion.
The issue, of course, Gitlin recognizes as one of accountability. Presumably, the creeps ye will always have with ye, but the lack of accountability is a kind of political analogue to AIDS in our society -- and make no mistake about it, the consequences of systematic silence are just as deadly as the disease itself, as the button suggests. Then we have to analyze not the statements, but the silence. One could even develop a 'sociology of silence'.
Such a sociology has long been one of my great interests. Why, for example, is there more organizing around the issue of animals rights (protesting at dog and cat shows and such) in a month, in the Bay Area CA's "Action for Animals" calendar, last time I checked, than around the issue of ending absolute poverty ("world hunger" in a year?). The circle of perversity is closed when you consider that an ecologically centered development program for the economically impoverished areas of the world is the only way that myriads of habitats and the species dependent upon them can be saved.
Silence is found in other areas, some as blatant as the absence of even a Greenpeace type organization canvassing to end absolute poverty. Today, with the Iraq War and the peace movement a burning issue, why has no one put together an organization not only to canvass door-to-door for members and donations like Greenpeace, but to mobilize the members the way ACORN does in chapter towns? I'm no Saul Alinsky--this is a no-brainer.
The dynamics in these cases is what I describe as the 'dark matter' of underground repression -- glass walls that prevent organizers from addressing certain issues, or addressing those issues effectively. With the media lockdown that accompanied Votergate 2004, can anyone really doubt how this country's media system really works?
The media lockdown should not be denied, or more temptingly, seen as a single oddball moment explained as a sui generis example. It isn't. It is a dimension, or what Hegelians call a 'moment' of how he media function every day of their existence. The first thing they teach you at journalism school is to 'clean up your quotes'. (You don't embarrass famous people by quoting them as speaking as inarticulately as they really do. That is something you do only with, say, the homeless -- to lend "authenticity") And that's just lesson one in the refined art of 'justifying the lying'. You have to know how to gather facts and properly verify them, to better spin them in a way that promotes, even if it doesn't necessarily linearly conform to, 'the program'. (The latter point, I must confess, is not original to me).
So we get to several of the examples Gitlin cites. Swift Boat vets. I carried on long and as loud as I could about the silence, not just of the MSM, but of the DEMOCRATS, and the 527s, and indeed the opposition progressive and left leaning media for months as the bogus flipflop spin was propagated and not debunked, until it crystallized into a national cliche. Only after the Republican Convention, indeed particularly in Jonathan Chait's cover story of The New Republic issue of Oct 18, was there a thorough debunking. (The earliest I have found attacking the validity as distinct from the hypocrisy of it are from spinsanity Sept 7. I would be interested in postings of earlier ones that fit my description. Some journalists (David Corn at The Nation) claim that they did so, but haven't furnished any examples on request.
A similar spot silence accompanied the SwiftBoatVeteransForSlime (they call themselves for 'truth' but as Lincoln said, calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.) I remember distinctly that folk at the unimpeachable (like I'm the angel Gabriel) Counterpoint had some people peddling some of that nonsense at the time too. Someone should call them on that. But when both Bush pere and Dole came out with the same 'where there's smoke there must be fire line' while in a clumsy but unexposed choreography, Bush and Cheney played 'above the fray', their asses were so far out they were blocking the jet stream. But no one kicked them. This was a silence like the others above -- a strategic media/political lockdown.
Now to accept even one example of a real lockdown is like accepting a single claim of flying saucer abduction. If that's true, then the entire paradigm of presumption used must be, well, full of it. Well the existing paradigm of the media and politics that is used, even by braver Noam Chomsky, does not nearly go far enough in explaining the nature of machine politics in the US.
You want to change this system, seriously, and not just pretending? Time to wake up and smell the horses***!!!!!
June 19, 2005 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
The media reports what the policiticans say. You guys want the media to do the politicians job for them. The only thing that made the Downing Street Memos any kind of news was the congressional effort to get them out there. I have worked on plenty of campaigns where the politicians hope to stay above the fray and let the media do their job. No. The politicians have to create the fray.
June 19, 2005 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Daniel Hallin's old "elite consensus" theory of the American press is right on target here. That is, if progressives want to challenge the administration, the best chance of garnering sustained, substantial news coverage is for congressional Democrats to take up the cause, since journalists generally won't air a view if it goes against an elite consensus. An argument on one side, followed by silence on the other equals presumed consensus. Thus, "Bush is great, Iraq is great" on one side, and "Dean doesn't speak for me, Durbin doesn't speak for me" on the other equals a consensus around the idea that the DSM are no big deal.
Surely, blogophiles will argue that they are breaking down the traditional gatekeepers, and that may be true to some extent. But it's no coincidence that Kossacks pissed in the wind for weeks on the DSM, only to have the story break through to the wires and every major US daily only when Conyers took it up. The point is, their lobbying of Conyers (himself a Kossack) bore much more fruit than their angry letters to Tim Russert and Wolf Blitzer, which are all water off a duck's back to elite journalists (who, despite our low opinion of them, are smart enough to see through a coordinated campaign to work the refs).
June 19, 2005 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's why they were reluctant to scrutinize the claims of the Swift Boat Vets, or to portray the Schiavo activists as the militants that they were. And that's why even a smart and usually decent guy like Dana Milbank will fall all over himself to pre-emptively denounce anyone who, like Conyers, is easy to caricature, and whose deserved defense requires intelligence and tenacity.
When a voice, like John O'Neill but pre-eminently George W Bush, effectively channels white male rage, the media simply do not have the heart to raise objections. And this is because what the media fears, at bottom, is an insurrection of the unreconstructed. And neolib pundits may rationalize or sublimate this threat as some sort of Jacksonian populist wisdom, but at bottom what stops their tongues is the primeval whisper of violence.
June 19, 2005 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point, but...
The best way to prod the public and Congress into action is with vigorous press coverage. That gets people talking and drives the issues.
June 19, 2005 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right! How many times did the average American see the footage of Clinton saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky"?? Probably dozens.
What I think would be most damning would be to juxtapose it with conressional testimony by senior administration officials during the "selling it to the public" phase in September/October 2002. There may not be a case for perjury charges, but it sure wouldn't come across as genuine honesty.
June 19, 2005 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
but remember, the Repugs know what they're doing. These people aren't amateurs. They know that most people think the whole thing is bogus, but also really don't give a crap. How many people who are not already dedicatedly antiBush at this point are going to shift their political thinking because of Terry Schiavo. Making more of an issue out of it risks harping on a moot issue (which Repugs can do and get away with it). At the same time, they can toss some red meat on the cheap to their rightwing religious "hot squat Christianity" so-called culture of life crowd. The protests about it make it a little more enticing as an issue, lending it that little bit of frisson that it needs to be more than a triviatum to that key element of his core constituency.
To the extent that politicians use things like this to launder underlying issues, the solution is to bring those issues up explicitly and shatter the glass wall of restriction, the globe of silence around that aspect of any issue. Only that will give the Repugs regrets about these tactics.
Note how, although abortion is one of the most popular issues for the Democrats, one of the most likely issues where so-called moderate Repugs (who unanimously voted for Janet "Liberalism is Slavery" Brown for the federal bench in the Senate) tend to deviate from the Party religion to get votes. But in polls, those who say that abortion was decisive in how they voted are two to one Repug. (This in turn provides a cellophane fig leaf of cover for the likes of Al From, in their quest to dump abortion from the Democratic platform).
June 19, 2005 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Indeed, they cower at the mere mention of liberal bias.
Still, Conyers is easy to caricature, as you say. But would Milbank caricature 45 senators and 200 House reps putting out a coordinated, unified message? Probably not. So, as I argue above, I still think the ball is in the congressional Dems' court.
June 19, 2005 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Judy Miller? I thought that was you.
It is not a journalist's job to "report what the politicians say". A journalist's job is to UNCOVER the truth!
June 19, 2005 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
<span class="Apple-style-span">Todd: if you spent less time complaining about the left and more time putting the focus on right wing lies, you wouldn't sound like a pathetic hand wringing waffling dunce.------------
NAOMI KLEIN: </span><span class="Apple-style-span">I absolutely agree. We know what we're up against in terms of media coverage. We know they are going to play up whatever violence there is. We know we're up against in terms of police violence, in terms of provocation, in terms of Republican spin. Our only weapon is numbers, is being in the streets. This is a moment for massive courage. To stand up against all this fear mongering, to say we're going anyway, because we know that there are a lot of problems with this country, Amy, but too much dissent is not one of them, okay? And anyone telling people to stay out of the streets, frankly, Todd, has a lot to answer for.</span>
June 19, 2005 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
A liberal doc would have been hammered (note how careful Howard Dean is about what kinds of medical pronouncements in public), but Frist? Ha ha ha. If you don't believe that the AMA has this bent, note that they sell their list to the RNC and not the DNC. If I get one more @_)#$(* survey about how much I love Bush's policies via the RNC via the AMA, I swear I'm going to vomit.
Since I've been ranting about this business with Frist (www.sporula.com), I'll shut up except to say that I wish someone to get a broad-support effort to take Frist's license away - that would make news.
ina, deeply irked
June 19, 2005 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Was Dana Milbank just reporting what John Conyers said? It looked like kissing Republican butt to me.
June 19, 2005 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't agree at all that it is up to the politicians to keep these stories alive. The role of the press that led to them being mentioned in the Constitution, is to be an independent force, watching what the politicians do and reporting on it. If they renege on that responsibility we get dunces like Bush reelected to the presidency - how could voters have voted against Bush for the lies leading up to the Iraq invasion if the proof of those lies was not publicized by the press? Politicians do have a responsibility to keep the oppositions feet to the fire, but the press has an independent responsibility to do the same.
June 19, 2005 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have to disagree with you, Dan.
I have no problem with foreign ownership of the media. Remember, guys like Murdoch have an easy time becoming citizens, if they need to be. But also remember that a lot of foreign media is better than ours. Even more conservative publications like "The Economist" and "The Financial Times:" regularly smoke our homegrown magazines and newspapers. More mainstream, foreign owned publications might have even dealt a death blow the the misperception among Americans that out foreign policy is popular around the world.
I just don't see limiting foreign ownership as a solution here.
June 19, 2005 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
<i>The media reports what the policiticans say. You guys want the media to do the politicians job for them. ...The politicians have to create the fray.</i>
It is sadly true that politicians seem to have to create the fray nowadays, but the media should *not* just be reporting "what the politicians say." The media has a duty to the public interest, not just to politicians' interests. The media's job is to investigate claims, to question political authorities, to present information the public needs to know when voting, to uncover the truth.
Our short-term goal may well be to get the politicians on our side into "the fray", but we have to keep our eyes on the long-term issue here, because it is truly a threat to our democracy. Liberal democracies need an independent, proactive, critical, discerning media that reaches the masses. The only all-pervasive media outlets right now are network tv news programs, and they are failing to inform the public.
Lately there seems to be a tendency in public discourse to conflate the public's interest with political parties' interests. It comes up a lot in discussions about media, but also in discussions about voting issues. One striking example was in the aftermath of the 2000 elections, when one would often hear that the butterfly ballot was the "Democrats' own fault" and so we shouldn't complain about it. Well yes, it was the Democrats' fault, and the Democratic person who approved the ballot can be blamed for it, but the result -- that the public was disenfranchised -- is worth complaining about and addressing. Same thing with the contested recount -- it was suggested that Gore only asked for the counties favorable to him to be recounted, so it was his own fault that the Supreme Court stopped the count. If you think about elections as wrestling matches between two individuals struggling for the gold medal, that makes sense, but that's not what an election is. An election is about finding out who the public wants to represent them. If neither political party's approach to addressing that makes sense, then the courts, the media, we the people, have a responsibility to figure it out. Democracy isn't just a wrestling match between political parties; it's about representing the public interest.
June 19, 2005 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess I consider the press to be an entity established by our Constitution to act as a safeguard on the government, to be an ombudsman of sorts for the people. In the same way I do not like our elected officials being subject to control by foreign money or governments, I don't like our press being open to the same manipulation, whether it has happened or not. I think having full disclosure of all financial transactions to media organizations, and full financial disclosure about the incomes of those who have the privilege of using the media to disseminate views (editors, reporters, etc), would help us keep our media honest. Limiting foreign ownership would make it easier to regulate the record keeping relating to media finances, imo. If we are to sustain democracy in our nation, we have to maintain trust in our institutions, especially government and media, and we have to make it possible for the check and balance between government and media to operate freely within a totally American framework. That's why I want to limit ownership to American citizens.
June 19, 2005 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given the 3 assassinations in the 60's, the rabid nature of many of the foot soldiers in the army of the right, the indifference of the middle, and the profit monomania of the corporate media, is it any wonder that even well intentioned journalists, especially those not sold on an afterlife, are afraid to try a 'year of living dangerously'.
June 19, 2005 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
In the run-up to the Iraq war, Todd was all over the media castigating wierd radicals. If you want to play the part of acceptable (i.e. roll-over) liberal in the media, don't complain later. The media will stop catering to the extreme right only when protests by wierd radicals shut down their offices in NY or when they start to be afraid that the radicals will win power and take the airwaves back. Well mannered complaints by Mr. Gitlin and others who think they SHOULD be part of the establishment due to their social class and willingness to sneer about rabble will have zero results.
June 19, 2005 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
We have this state of media now which is Republican biased. But in their mind they want to be thought of as being the middle.
What we need is an alternative to the Leadership Institue which churns out by the thousands Conservative journalists like Jeff Gannon to frame their reports in the conservative light and anti-Democrats.
Or better still, we have to bring back integrity in the media by self-policing and having written ethical professionalism policies that they should hold the journalists to.
Someone like AP or Tim Russert should not write stories that Gov Dean said this or Swift Boats Allegations or Durbin compared this, etc which the reporters know is not the whole true story or the substance of the message or the story. They are erasing the distinction of yellow journalism and professional journalism.
There must be a way to make Media work for the TRUTH instead of just whining about the state of MEDIA. Republicans know how to play the game(CBS Rathergate, CNN, Newsweek-Quran).
We Democrats should have a seminar on how to work with the current media without sacrificing our convictions.
June 19, 2005 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
<div>If the notion that the press corps all knew something was a reason not to report on an issue, how did Monica Lewinsky ever become news? Let's face it; back in the day we all knew that President Clinton was a hound dog who liked the ladies. Didn't stop the media frenzy, did it? Nope. In fact, Drudge made his bones when the rumors he published of Monica's blue dress were proven true.</div><div><br /></div><div>Well now, the rumors that BushCo invented reasons to attack Iraq and manipulated the American people's understanding of the intelligence have been proven true. </div><div><br /></div><div>The Downing Street Memo is the New Blue Dress.</div>
June 19, 2005 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Media Matters does a lot of what you suggest. We need to support Media Matters and get the MSM to pay attention.
June 19, 2005 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am still fuming aoubt Milbank's mocking coverage of Rep. Conyers's Downing Street Memo hearings. Having watched the hearings, I cannot imagine how he could have seen the testimony of Cindy Sheehan about the death of her son, Casey, in a war based on a pack of lies and then written the article that ridiculed those who take the DSM seriously.
Was Dana Milbank one of those at the press dinner laughing at the president's jokey search for the WMD?
June 19, 2005 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
First of all, people like Judith Miller and Elizabeth Bumiller aren't afraid of the right wing. They are members of it.
Second, reporters have to justify their stories and requests for salary increases to editors who have to justify them to owners, almost none of whom are liberals. A couple of leading papers (NYT, WaPo) used to have liberal publishers who appointed liberal editors-in-chief but they don't any more.
This phenomenon is even more pronounced on TV. The networks are all owned by companies with right-wing CEOs and almost all of the affiliates are owned outright by right-wingers. The most any liberal reporter can do is drag something back to the center.
The upshot is that any story with a liberal slant has to be double- and triple-checked because the reporter and his editor will catch hell from the boss if there is a mistake. But the boss won't be all that upset if there is a pro-right wing mistake.
June 19, 2005 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agre that we have to stop relying on Tim Russerts of Washington to speak truth to power and to inform the public. Tim Russerts of Washington themselves are part of the power structure in Washington. They are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
It is difficult to find alternative ways though. Yes, Internet is an opportunity but it is still in early stages in terms of people relying on it for their news. What is desperately needed is an impartial, legitimate cable news network, like the BBC or the CNN of 20 years ago.
June 19, 2005 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Todd,
Re: Frist's Schiavo "Diagnosis," did Dr. Frist abet a violation of AMA Ethics Opinion E-5.045?
In a 2001 report by the Council on Ethical and Judicial Affairs, (CEJA Report 3_ A-01) the Council "provides guidance regarding ethical filming of patients by discussing the scope of patient privacy and confidentiality; the responsibility to obtain informed consent; and the importance of ensuring the objectives in filming are first and foremost educational."
The AMA subsequently adopted the recommendations of the report. (AMA Ethics Opinion E-5.045.)
The fundamental position of the Council is that patients must consent to being filmed. In Schiavo's case, she wasn't in a position to consent to being filmed, just as she wasn't in a position to consent to any course of medical action.
But what are the ethical standards regarding the filming and dissemination of video of footage of medical patients? Did Dr. Frist uphold such standards? (<span class="blogfooter">Barney F. McLelland raised the question yesterday.)</span>
The Council notes that when it comes to care giving, "exceptions to obtaining consent are provided in relation to individuals who are 'unconscious or otherwise incapable of consenting.' Under such circumstances, treatment is undertaken based on the implied consent doctrine that a reasonable person capable of consenting would want to receive medical care that is in his or her best interests. However, since filming a patient confers no therapeutic benefit, this standard should not be applied to unconscious or incapable patients when the issue in question is filming."
So then, because filming Schiavo provided no therapeutic benefit, it would appear that whoever filmed her and then subsequently released the footage to Sen. Frist, not to mention major news organizations, violated Schiavo's privacy. To the extent that Frist abetted or encouraged such a violation, as a licensed doctor, his ethical breach seems all the more severe. Dr. Frist should have known better.
The issue of Frist questioning the diagnosis of persistent vegetative state based on a viewing of the video is completely unprofessional on its face, but it wasn't the only, or indeed the first ethical breach in this case. Whoever taped her and then released the video, clearly did not do so to provide "therapeutic benefit" to Schiavo, nor were the objectives of the filming "first and foremost educational," the Council's other main criteria besides "informed consent" that might allow such filming.
The report does say, "a possible exception exists when the person in question is permanently or indefinitely incompetent (e.g. permanent vegetative state or minor child). In such circumstances, if a parent or legal guardian provides consent, filming may occur."
However, given that Schiavo's legal guardian, her husband Michael, threatened legal action after several videos of the brain damaged women made in 2002 were posted on the Internet, it is fair to conclude that such consent did not exist.
What's more, the videos were used in a manner that not only wasn't therapeutic nor educational, but was in point of fact politically motivated. A typical example of the politicization of the video footage are the comments of one Wesley J. Smith, who was named "one of the nation's top expert thinkers in bioengineering because of his work in bioethics," by the National Journal.
After Smith viewed the videos in 2003, this "top expert thinker" concluded that the "videotapes of Terri clearly show her responding to requests. For example, a closed-eyed Terri is asked to open her eyes by a doctor. Her eyes flutter and she does as he requests. She is asked in another video to follow a balloon with her eyes, and she does."
One wonders whether this "top expert thinker" might want to amend his views given that Schivao's autopsy showed conclusively that the woman was blind, because in the words of the medical examiner, the "vision centers of her brain were dead." Does this "top expert thinker" really believe that Schiavo was "following a balloon with her eyes," given that she was blind?
Perhaps more importantly, if a violation of AMA Ethics Opinion E-5.045 occurred, what is Dr. Frist's culpability in such a violation? The CEJA notes that should it find evidence of an ethics violation, it "has the authority to acquit, admonish, censure, or place on probation the accused physician or suspend or expel him or her from AMA membership," in accordance with AMA rules, including this one.
If a complaint is filed against Frist, it would most likely have to go through the Tennesse Medical Association. Regardless of the minutiae of the AMA ethics guidelines, it seems clear that Dr. Frist failed to uphold the spirit of the standards of medicine to which he swore to upon receiving his license. And I don't think he should get away with it.June 19, 2005 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
" We Democrats should have a seminar on how to work with the current media without sacrificing our convictions."
I don't think a seminar will do them any good.
The sad truth is Tim Russerts of Washington FEAR the republicans. They don't fear Democrats. This has to do with corporate ownership of the media. Tim Russert knows that people who sign his multimillion dollar paycheck will not tolerate attacks on GOP but will be appreciative of attacks on Democrats.
So no, a seminar won't help Democrats. Their supporters will have to invest the money in building progressive media organs.
June 19, 2005 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where are the before and after shots? On the daily show, where they always are...
June 19, 2005 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
The then & now for Sen. Frist WAS shown on "The Daily Show" last week.
SDB
June 19, 2005 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that we need to work the ref (Media Matters is our savior), but I also find that the MSM ignores our complaints. The first column by the new NYT ombudsman sounded like a complete suckup to conservative Christians. After all the e-mails I, and thousands like me, sent the Times over the years of horribly irresponsible coverage, they showed that their only concern was sucking up to evangelicals.
It doesn't matter how many e-mails we send about Miller, they will ALWAYS defend her. They defend their stories on WMD and ignoring of the DSM, yet self-flaggelate over correctly reporting Koran abuse.
To put it simply, the media doesn't give a F*$%k what progressives think. They aren't there for you.
Also, stop watching cable news shows. I am so much happier now.
June 19, 2005 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for all the re's, maybe the point was overstated
>>>media's job is to ... uncover the truth.
-- but nobody goes to jail for lying to the media. In spite of their self-regard, reporters are nothing compared to elected officials.
Conyers is a good guy, but he's on the outside. Remember in 2002 how all the Dem candidates were saying "yeah we're for more wars". That year was going to be a big win for us. They're still saying this, half are finding new Muslims to yammer about, there's Schumer moving the "oil-for-food" fakery along. Here's Bill Clinton saying Bush was right on the war. Here's Hillary saying Bush's worst crime is that he's not respectful of congressional Democrats.
Daniel Ellsberg said it a while back: it's going to take lots of politicians accepting the wingnut label, the coward label, the faggot label to get to some reality on this.
June 19, 2005 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sheesh Todd: just a low rating and not even a word in self-defense. How about your pathetic attack on the "left" in the NYT 2002 ? Look, you have made use of your moments with the microphone to attack the dissenters for not being respectable enough and even to spread the moronic right wing slander about the left not caring about 9/11. Now you want to complain that the rethuglicans control the media. Well pin a medal on yourself and how about you read Letter from a Birmingham Jail - a document addressed precisely to hand wringing collaborators like you.
June 19, 2005 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Frist is a lying sack of shit.
June 19, 2005 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
sounds like a parody of a radical position. and weird is spelled the way i just did
June 20, 2005 1:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you misconceptualize the problem in this post. It isn't that I disagree with everything in your position, but it's like someone who is against the Iraq War and insists it is all about America's oil gluttony. Yes, both the war and the oil gluttony are awful, but the analysis is simplistic.
On Todd Gitlin. First of all, this is not the sort of site for this kind of ad hominem attack where it isn't really addressing the issue of the post, and to the extent it purports to, doesn't do so very well. But at least you saved face from the previous embarassment, which would suggest that there were only cranks who would raise such concerns, and made a good point that any important critique should be answered in some forum.
The forum to raise this sort of thing is in your personal diary. When you make a SHORT statement that you thing so-and-so is a hypocrite, you can then link to something in your personal blog, and people can comment there, and hopefully the person critiqued would be motivated to respond. This is a good general pattern and it is great thing that this site provides you with your own blog. (My computer skills being limited, I could never get my AuthenticProgressive.com site at Blogspot to work -- and as for LAYOUT etc. FORGET IT!) So here is my blog, at TPM. And yours too -- people should use them.
I will limit my comments about Gitlin here because I await someone to put the issue up on their personal blog for discussion. But simply put, he is something of a post-Cold War analogue to the Cold War liberal. sds aside, he is associated with the mainstream of the Democratic Party, and I am astounded by the degree of affinity he has within the Democratic Party with Al From type thinking in his openly expressed thoughts; I am sure he has plenty of critiques of them too.
But as a Democrat, he is like other liberals critical of the Left and of the Republicans. If you just forget about the sds part, which is unfortunately accepted as a kind of political credential, he is not that sharply different from many other mainstream liberals.
Are they (like Jerrold Nadler) "morally consistent"? Well, I don't think so, as an authentic progressive who never 'learned' that my earlier radicalism (of the 70s originally not the 60s) was too far out.
Before being accused of putting words in anyone's mouth, I am just giving my take on the process of how to address the issue, and some of the substance of my views.
June 20, 2005 1:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, but I have to disagree. The problem is just as much the "Todd Gitlins" of the world as it is the "Tim Russerts", because there is really only a very small shade of difference between Gitlin and Russert ---- and pointing that out is fully appropriate. Both are more concerned with maintaining their "mainstream credibility" than with examining the facts. When Gitlin was jumping on the war bandwagon by trashing the left, he was able to do so only because his own "memory hole" was so vast.
Understanding how the "memory hole" works means understanding how all "establishment" types, including professors at Columbia, are willing to exploit the memory hole to maintain their status as important enough to be published on the Times op-ed pages. And when Gitlin refuses to acknowledge his own role and instead labelled the comment as "inappropriate", its difficult to give him credit for doing anything but jumping on the DSM issue because it has finally become okay for establishment types to acknowledge the facts that the "loony left" have been talking about for years.
June 20, 2005 3:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's silly to lament the passing of the Fourth Estate. They're gone. Dead.
Citizen journalism and blogs will lead the way.
June 20, 2005 5:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
side point -- over the years since I first got a computer I have emailed over 50 letters to the NY Times, all of them timely and almost all of them sufficiently short. NONE of these have ever been printed. They are virtually all reasonably crisply written, unlike most of my posts -- the latter are more like a written form of conversation.
In the case of Matt Bai in particular, who wrote that crucial piece in the Oct 10 NY Times Magazine, which painted Kerry falsely as soft on terror, I wrote a letter which never got printed, with an interesting twist. (I noticed from RealClearPolitics.com, which I follow for RW journalism, there were literally daily columns, from Dick Morris to Charles Krauthammer etc etc, for weeks across the country echoing and magnifying the distortions of that one Bai piece, which also became the main theme of the Bush campaign, supplanting 'flipflop'.) None of the letters that were printed, none, took Bai to task the way I did. For them to excise all the letters debunking that article from their published letters would be a case of awful journalism that could be politically decisive in an election -- in contrast to having someone reasonably prominent publish a column or major article rebutting Bai's claims about Kerry. Never mind the stuff about 'reality based'/Bush which only appeals to liberals -- Bai completely avoided the fact that Kerry was calling for a militarily MORE vigorous approach to terrorism as distinct from Iraq, and suggested at numerous points that Kerry was less interested than Bush in forcibly crushing Al Qaeda. Together with the RW attack-and-further-distort media machine, that probably was indeed decisive. So the policy that led them to turn down my letter there (never mind the letter itself) also was of decisive political importance -- and this from a paper officially supporting Kerry!
June 20, 2005 5:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
You mean he unconscionably refuses to acknowledge being full of crap?
June 20, 2005 5:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Paul is a genuine hero of the opposition while Todd Gitlin has used his prominence and position in the most opportunistic and shameful ways. This is not a new critique: I quoted Naomi Klein above and contrary to the person who does not understand the definition of ad-hominem it is not a personal attack. The right wing control of the media and the "frame" for discussion is helped immeasurably by the liberal-tsk-tsk alliance that, in the face of a grostequely mendacious far right government sees its primary task as lending credibility to right wing smears. Here is Todd Gitlin, bravely complaining about Tim Russert now, while his access to the NYTimes two years ago went towards castigating the "left" for not properly lining up after 911. During the next crisis, Todd will undoubtedly wring his hands in horror about the presence of Anarchists at a protest march or the failure of someone to have good attendence marks at the Noam Chomsky Hate Week. God knows, I'm no fan of the therapeutic left in the country, but the problem with this country is not Noam Chomsky or the Park Slope Anti-Imperialist Alliance. By taking on the role of policeman of what is acceptable dissent, Gitlin does his part no less than Tim Russert and Judy Miller.
June 20, 2005 6:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let me explain where I'm coming from. I don't disagree with much or most of the substance of the critique of Gitlin. I admire Chomsky greatly. If you go through my posts where I talk about repression and the mass media (considering Chomsky's and Gitlin's disdain for 'conspiracy thinking') I am probably on the OTHER SIDE of Chomsky from Gitlin. And there are other issues not to go into here.
My point is that we have to avoid the logic that whenever someone (here the focus is on media critique) says ANYTHING by way of criticism of any political coverage of the media, it is open season on taking the inventory of the media critic. This site is one that insists on a high level of intellectual discourse, which is one reason it has quickly become one of my very favorites. I think that a much freer discussion can take place on someone's blog -- why not just post something there for discussion and then cut and paste the link to it on to your posting. Then we could discuss this issue without being within his 'jurisdiction'. And people who felt it inappropriate or who might be intimidated would participate.
The initial thing that I saw was a thing about the "wierd" Left that looked like the person who contributed it was baked out of their mind. It didn't present the best version of the critique to be made. If you did things the other way, fine.
Who is Paul? Is he affiliated with some group? I've never heard of him.
June 20, 2005 6:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow Todd, very impressive. According to you, it's "inappropriate" to point out your shameful role as a participant in the very media debacle you now decry. And yet you are unable to muster a word in your own defense. Since it's likely that going to the library is too demeaning for someone of your august level, I will releive you of the burden of looking up MLKs essay and give you a short quote:
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I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Councilor or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
June 20, 2005 6:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sorry, but Todd Gitlin went out of his way to denigrate and delegitimize "the left" when it was opposed to the war --- and is now in the process of co-opting the hard work of the left in order to come off as a sage opinion leader. The progressive community has been talking about "the memory hole" for ages.....but Gitlin references The Boston Globe as if Tom Oliphant was coming up with something new and fascinating --- and accepting the kudos from commenters here for his insight. In other words, after trashing the left, he refuses to acknowledge that they were right and he was wrong, and give them appropriate credit for their hard work in holding Bush's feet to the fire. Instead, he wants to jump to the front of the parade now that the anti-war movement has been proven correct.
The anti-war left wasn't a bunch of "conspiracy nuts" --- we'd done the research, read the PNAC reports, examined the final UNSCOM report, and read the foreign press which was not afraid to tell the truth about the war. Unlike Gitlin, we'd examined all the facts, and reached the appropriate conclusions. But only now that we have official documents that say flat out what any fairly intelligent person could have concluded by examining all the facts, Gitlin employs his own "memory hole" and tries to pretend that he has something new and important to say about "memory holes". He doesn't --- its all been said before, and the least he can do is give proper credit where its due, rather than rely on a "mainstream" source for his observations.
Gitlin is part of the same "power establishment" that does everything in can to marginalize the progressive left --- and never gives the left the credit it deserves for having been right about the Bush regime all along. Just as the "memory hole" lets the GOP get away with past lies and misrepresentations, so too does the "memory hole" allow the Gitlins of the world to get away with his own misdeeds. Pointing this out is perfectly legitimate in any discussion of "memory holes" because the "establishment Democrats" like Gitlin exploit those same memory holes to keep the Democratic Left on the fringes of the debate.
June 20, 2005 7:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Paul has done a lot of independent journalism on the web and his work has been widely circulated. Todd writes a series of articles in the Globe, the Times, and so on about the stupidity, anti-semitism, and dubious loyalty of "the left" and now has the chutzpah to step up as if he were shocked, shocked, I tell you, about the whoreish nature of the establishment press. Furthermore, when called on it here, he doesn't have the decency to respond, except to violate standards and rate my note as "inappropriate". FYI Todd, it is not inappropriate to find your behavior less than exemplary and it is not disloyal for Americans to oppose Bush's insane policies without getting clearance from the self-appointed dissidency loyalty police. I'm not ashamed to be seen with Anarchists and vegeterian animal rights activists and any other kind of marginal citizen who is standing up for freedom and human rights and civil liberties, but I would be ashamed to be seen with some careerist self-booster who thinks that being respectable in the eyes of the employers of Judith Miller is a worthwhile goal.
June 20, 2005 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I have thought that the best thing for Bill Frist is to have, where ever he goes, somebody in the audience with a recording of a cat being tortured, hissing, or whatever just ti remind people of just how Dr Bill got his start.
dc
June 20, 2005 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am very much not a Gitlin fan, in case you hadn't noticed. But this stuff (which clearly is exactly what I thought -- you having other, not necessarily invalid, issues of dispute with the author) I'm sorry belongs in personal blogs. Just run a blog critiquing Gitlin, invite your friends to participate and rate it 'recommended' and it will have its own spot on the front page of the site. What more could you ask? I just hate to see, imagine some guest of the prominence of the ones we've had comes along, say Lieberman. He is FAAAAAR from being my favorite. Or Al From. Talk about a new word I coined today based on the French word degueulasse -- "pukative". Are there going to be people swarming to the thread just to trash him? This is a REALLY great site. Sometimes people are so caught up in their agenda they become parasitic to the institutional framework for their pursuit of what they believe in.
In this case, in the main, I am NOT taking issue with what you are saying, but where you are saying it. There are a few specific points in what you said about Gitlin, and some very important criticisms that you overlooked. But the point is
PERSONAL BLOG!!!!!!!!!!! that's what I do with my stuff too
June 20, 2005 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
that's absurd. Advance your opinion in an open forum and expect to get a response in that forum.
June 20, 2005 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Personal blogs ARE an open forum. And if someone wants to start a thread, say, taking Josh Marshall's inventory, or Todd Gitlin's it's the appropriate way to do it.
Otherwise it becomes 'relevant due to the name on the masthead' that you just attack the person as your only point, using whatever is discussed as a hook or foot in the door to take their inventory
June 22, 2005 8:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
in a general way, one can see that the fact that there is mortality, that the old are required to depart, means to make way for the young, the new. It is a systematic way to admit the new, to allow the new to flourish. So that, one must conclude, the possibility, the inevitability of newness has to exist in the succession of generations. So then the heredity is not given by God, but changes. The seed is now one thing, now another.
June 24, 2005 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink