Understanding our National Denial about Iraq
Here's a question I've been thinking a lot about recently. And I'd be very curious to find out what others think.
Quite apart from how well or poorly things are going in Iraq today, and separate from the question of whether we should stay or leave, is the question of how we got into the place to start with. And on this question, it seems to me, the country is in an eerie state of national denial.
Recently, there was the revelation of the so-called Downing Street Memo, which showed pretty clearly that the head of British intelligence -- which has deep ties and liaison with American intelligence -- believed that in Washington the intelligence was "being fixed around the policy."
"The case was thin," the memo went on to say. "Saddam was not threatening his neighbours and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran."
The Memo itself has created relatively little stir in this country. And I suspect the reason is that if we're honest with ourselves -- across the political spectrum -- it's just not news, by the conventional definition. We already know it's true.
Similar in my mind is the Senative Intelligence committee's hardly-discussed decision to end its promised inquiry into possible political manipulation of the intelligence that led to war. More recently there was the news that the Army intel analysts responsible for the biggest piece of bad intelligence -- the notorious aluminum tube story -- have gotten performance awards for each of the last three years.
(From my own reporting on the issue, I know that whole sections of last year's Senate Intel report contained knowingly-deceptive, up is down, portrayals of key events -- something that was impossible to see unless you knew what was under key redactions and important details that went unmentioned entirely.)
The president's party -- and by that I mean at least a slight distinction from the Republican party -- is content with the fiction that the errors were rooted in the intelligence community itself. The Democrats, out of a mix of frustration and the lack of a clear political angle, have largely dropped the issue too. The White House has been able to neuter or kill most of the relevant investigations, benefiting almost immeasurably from the GOP recapture of the senate in November 2002.
I've tried to think of this as it will be explained in history books a dozen or a hundred years from now. And I really wonder what they'll say.



Comments (155)
Though we actually never stopped being at war with Iraq since evicting them from Kuwait weren't we terrorized into this current phase of the war? Saddem had WMD and links to terrorists who might one day attack us. To offer any alternatives to war was to be for terrorists.
June 7, 2005 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have spoke to many people who are only casually involved in politics who believe Saddam was involved in the 9/11 attacks. It is well established fact (courtesy of the bi-partisan 9/11 Commission) that the 9/11 link claim is false. So how does the perception persist? Under the theory that if a lie is repeated enough it will become truth. I think 9/11 frightened Americans on a primal level to the point that the truth is not relevant. They want to be protected. And even if Bush's methods are heavy handed and sometimes mistaken, he is protecting us, and that is the only thing that matters in their minds.
I don't know how well or poorly history will treat Bush's 2 terms. I guess how well Iraq turns out and if in the coming decades the global terrorism problem declines he might be treated better then it might appear now. But right now I think his legacy will not be a good one when viewed in hindsight.
June 7, 2005 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Our host's headline gets at the problem: denial is an extremely powerfui force in everyday life. As someone here has already noted, in the post-9/11 environment, fear and anger ruled, and the invasion of iraq tapped into that fear and anger.
now the fact is, as i've noted before, prior to the war, roughly 1/3 of the public supported the kind of war we're now in (1000+ american deaths, limited foreign support), and that is where the polls on the war appear to be heading. however, the roughly 1/3 who bought into the ad campaign but are now having second thoughts are unlikely to acknowledge that they were conned.
So what will historians note? That you can fool some of the people all of the time, and most of the people some of the time. That a supine media enabled the con job; without the media pointing out unpleasant truths, why should people get worked up? That jellyfish politicians refused to acknowledge the plain truth in front of their face.
And, oh yes, that this was a disaster whose reprecussions played out for decades.
June 7, 2005 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I happen to have written both of my Senators about the Downing St. Memo yesturday, here is the response from one (Johnny Iskason, R-GA):
Dear :
Thank you for contacting me regarding Iraq . Im glad to hear from you and appreciate the opportunity to respond.
I wholeheartedly support the President s decision to liberate Iraq and I applaud our military s performance over there. I also am grateful to our allies who have joined with us and who continue to support our efforts. We were right to eliminate Saddam Hussein as a threat so that the Iraqi people and the Middle East will no longer be terrorized by this ruthless dictator.
I traveled to Iraq in January just days after the citizens of that country participated in their first free election in more than 50 years. Nothing has moved me more than seeing the Iraqi people defy the insurgents as they lined up to vote and then proudly showed off their ink-stained fingers. It was democracy at its finest, and every leg of my trip to Iraq confirmed that the Iraqi people are grateful for what America has done. Our actions have had a positive impact that will reverberate for generations to come.
We must work with the new Iraqi government and we must continue training Iraqi security forces until they are able to defend their country by themselves. The sacrifice for both Americans and Iraqis has been great, but the successful Iraqi election and the willingness of the Iraqi people to embrace democracy proves once again that freedom will always prevail.
I imagine I will be getting something from the same form letter from Chambliss.
June 7, 2005 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Denial it is. Or deepseated brainwashing.
I spend time with a very good friend - a truly decent fellow in his relations with others in his circle - who is a "moderate conservative".
Not only is he insensitive to news on the war, but to articles in the paper about (1) how the middle class must pay significantly more for college tuitions, (2) how much the tax breaks are benefiting the hyper-rich, especially in the light of increasing costs of living to the middle class, (3) torture of suspected terrorists by American officals and G.I.s... and on and on and on.
Maybe one aspect of my friend's "insensitivity" resides in the back of his mind - the feeling that 9/11 caused just a huge injury and injustice to the U.S., that we must fight back, whatever it takes, however long it takes. Somehow he doesn't compare this occurrence to years of terrorist attacks elsewhere in the world. We have been uniquely wronged, end-of-story.
It's not a rational response, it's a deep-seated emotional one. I know he believes that the U.S. has across its history only done wonderful things for the rest of the world. There is either little knowledge of our darker side or the false understanding that anything seemlngly crue or injust thing that we have done has always been committed in the context of overriding freedom-fighting and beneficence.
Many Americans just don't have any conception that our crap can stink - or even that we crap at all. Somehow we are different from the other citizens of the world, from other countries. And they have little ability to relate to the differences in thinking and living of others around the world.
That we are doing horrible things in Iraq and elsewhere seems to be justified to so many people in ways that in earlier days they may by now have raised their eyebrows and their voices. And so many in the middle class continue to be blind to the actions of the Bush administration and the Republicans in their current incarnation and how those actions actually affect them. And the Bushies and the Republicans know this and take full advantage of it.
June 7, 2005 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
A provocative post, Josh. In this context (Iraq and what got us there), I liken America (and, sorry, I say this as a Canadian) to an individual who just won't go to therapy lest he or she discover shocking truths about his or her past. Even if we suspect we know the truth, not many of us are strong enough to handle the truth, to deal with what makes us who we are. We prefer to live under cover of some self-made mask, a thin veneer of self-protection that allows us to lead relatively "normal" lives.
It seems to me that Americans have begrudgingly come to accept that Iraq is a reality. The enthusiasm of the invasion quickly gave way to the drudgery of occupation. That may have interesting at first, but it's given way to a certain, well, numbing of the American mind, where even the most grotesque violence seems banal (28 killed in a mosque, 40 others injured -- what does this even mean anymore?). It's sort of like Darfur: even if we could get our head around it, many of us just don't want to, lest we lose whatever shred of sanity keeps us going from day to day.
All this is to say that any understanding of America in Iraq will require psychohistory if the story is to be told in any meaningful way in terms of the homefront. That may always be the case, but there does seem to be an unusually high amount of self-denial here. Maybe because the spectre of Vietnam looms ever present in the background. Or maybe because the incessant coverage in the media leads to an equal counter-reaction of detachment. All this is speculation. We need therapy.
It's easy to see why the Bush Administration is doing what it can to suppress the history of the lead-up to war. Whether they knew what they were doing or whether they just got it wrong (and I suspect it was quite a bit of both), the urgency is to spin a different yarn, lest Bush's approval rating fall ever lower. For all the rhetoric, they know that things haven't gone according to plan (whatever plan there was), but, no, the truth can't come out so blatantly.
But I wonder why Americans themselves aren't more outraged by this. Is it because they, too, either can't handle the truth or don't want to know what they already know but are pretending not to care much about? Thousands died in Vietnam, and for what? The pain of that war lingers so profoundly in the American psyche, so can it take yet more meaningless death? Thousands have died in Iraq, both American forces and even greater numbers of civilians -- and how many (do we even know?) have been severely, even irreparably, wounded? Do we really want to find out that it was for a lie? Or a mistake? For some utopian neocon vision? Or Bush's Freudian efforts to overcome his father? Or for the sake of -- gasp -- politics?
Admittedly, some of it may also have to do with the fact that attention spans have dwindled into obscurity. What was it Bart Simpson said when he learned that Homer had been a member of the B-sharps? I can't even remember what happened eight minutes ago. And they all laugh. Some of that must be going on here. We're too busy wondering about the Michael Jackson verdict or Rob and Amber's wedding to care much about the nuances of intelligence gathering and political manipulation. That's not a good thing, but it's the unfortunate truth.
I wonder, too, what the history books will say. I suppose it depends on how Iraq turns out. But it will also come down to who writes the history books. Right now, I'd even take Dr. Phil. A dose of therapy is what America needs most. Otherwise, Iraq, like Vietnam, will seep ever further into America's subconscious, forever to wreak havoc with her more noble ambitions.
June 7, 2005 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know how well or poorly history will treat Bush's 2 terms
I know how history will deal with this war. As a historian you are trained to be an impartial observer, the thesis is guided by evidence. In this instance, the facts are clear, no conjecture required. History will see a concerted effort to fabricate threats, undermine attempts at compromise and general dishonesty.
As for the greater war on terror, here you have more room for competing arguments, although again factually it is easier to support the anti-Bush hypothesis.
Sad to say, but the distance of history may be the only way to sift through the propaganda and misinformation. It will not be kind, the facts so alarming and clear.
June 7, 2005 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to think that if dems ever regain power in this country that the history books will present a more accurate (and appalling) version of the Iraq debacle, starting with the clear evidence of bamboozlement from the get-go. But I'm not so sure. As Josh wisely points out, the dems have dropped the ball on these investigations in part from frustration, but also due to the lack of a political angle. Do we imagine this will change should the dems ever regain power? Will there be a better political angle once they have the ability to do something about it?
This connects nicely with the question of rectitude vs. reform (can't we just say, "Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?", or is that too pedestrian?). I'd say asking whether or not likely criminal acts that would have put Nixon to shame (ah, another tie-in) have a "political angle" to them or not certainly leans heavily in the reform category - if you take reform to mean doing or not doing whatever is necessary to regain power. If that's the sort of reform Dems decide on, count me out. The Republicans have moved from destroying the environment, the economy, privacy, etc. to attempting to destroy the republic itself. My question is this - does any party deserve to gain or hold power in this country without a strong commitment to investigating, charging, and prosecuting those who have flagrantly and repeatedly broken the law over the past 5yrs? That's not about "get-back", it's about restoring some sense of justice and meaning to our system of government. In the words of the poet, "If you don't stand for something, you'll go for anything."
June 7, 2005 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right on !
The need for payback, for making somebody pay for 9/11, anybody. And Saddam took it when OBL slipped away.
June 7, 2005 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I think 9/11 frightened Americans on a primal level to the point that the truth is not relevant. They want to be protected. And even if Bush's methods are heavy handed and sometimes mistaken, he is protecting us, and that is the only thing that matters in their minds."
So sad... 9/11 is our collective nightmare, and yet Americans seem no longer to have shared dreams to counteract it.
June 7, 2005 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
"<span class="Apple-style-span"> it's just not news, by the conventional definition. We already know it's true.</span>"
Who is We?
Most people do not know. Most people assume that it really was poor intelligence, they assume that Bush made an honest mistake. And until the headlines scream it, those who do suspect a lie will not face up to it.
Look, MOST people don't sit around reading blogs. Of the ones that do, about half firmly believe that Bush is as honest as the day is long.
"We"? Who is "We"?
Probably a few hundred thousand US citizens, max.
SO QUIT SAYING IT'S NOT NEWS!
For the majority of Americans, if the DSM were honestly reported in-depth, IT WOULD BE NEWS!
Saying otherwise just gives the SCLM cover to continue to ignore the story.
June 7, 2005 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
If ex-president Clinton's statements of continued support for the decision to invade Iraq are any indication of the Democrat's position, then there is not much of a chance that the intelligence manipulation which led to the war will become an issue for the Dems.
June 7, 2005 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Go Michael! I avoided the therapeutic implications that you so effectively convey (as a therapist,I try not to evangelize too much), but glad to see someone put it out there. Specifically, I liken the US to a teenage boy, charged with hormones, thinking he will live forever, oblivious to the past and the future, sure of his rightness, but underlying all, a deep-seated terror that he's really not "all that". Therapy indeed. He needs to be grounded for awhile (with NO television!) and made to do some community service - as well as being pushed to look within.
June 7, 2005 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
A historian I spoke to had this general comment: Americans don’t do national crises well, initially.
His examples were the hysterical atmosphere the country had upon entering World War I, with the crushing of dissent (which led to the birth of the ACLU), and the advent of the Cold War, with its hysterical anti-Communism expressed through McCarthyism.
In the long run, though, especially after the McCarthy era, Americans settled down to a more rational, bipartisan approach to solving its problems.
So it was with 9/11—the reaction was and has been emotional/irrational. After a few years things will settle down and we’ll get it right.
As to the historical view of Bush 2, if these future historians are writing secretly from prison cells, after their morning and evening government-mandated group prayers to Jesus, we’ll know that the toxic, anti-democratic ethos of this administration and party finally succeeded in bringing down representative government as we know and have cherished it.
I do think that future historians will marvel at the way in which a small group of well-funded ideologues found weaknesses in our governmental structure and exploited them, and were able to achieve remarkable success in hijacking the nation for its dismal ends.
June 7, 2005 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
that's a fascinating letter from the senator, who avoids the whole question and instead, provides the knee-jerk recitation of what a great thing liberating iraq is. i'm amazed that he doesn't discuss how many schools we've painted.
June 7, 2005 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Because of a shortened attention spans, all history will be taught using short slogans on t-shirts.
Fortunately, however, this war can be summed up quick: "We occupied Iraq and all we got is this lousy t-shirt."
June 7, 2005 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that there are several reasons that dovetail into the malaise we have about reporting on the lead-up to the Iraq war. One reason is that I suspect there are a lot of people who are willing to focus on the intentions of the administration and who believe that the invasion of Iraq was essentially benevolent in its intent. They are able to point to the humanitarian crimes of Saddam Hussein and to the sharp contrast that the invasion had with the fifty year US policy of propping up brutal dictatorships throughout the world and to rationalize that in this instance the means justified the ends. Moreover, I think that the reliance on intentions can be applied more specifically to the actions of the Bush and Blair administrations themselves. I've been reading John Keegan's history of the Iraq War recently and what comes through is that everyone involved believed that Iraq really had those weapons, right down to the military commanders who put together a battleplan in no small part based around disabling the Iraqi military before it had a chance to unleash chemical and biological attacks. That is frightening but consistent with the mindset of ideologues, who begin from a position or belief and then construct an argument for it instead of the other way around. By that way of thinking, the Bush administration wasn't fixing the intelligence, they were FIXING the intelligence, and that they assumed that events would prove that they were right and the intelligence they had was spotty. I can't think of any other explanation for Donald Rumsfeld standing up and insisting that not only did he know that Iraq had WMDs, he knew exactly where (I mean, if these guys genuinely thought they were pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, they would have taken the trouble to plant some WMDs around to keep themselves from the kind of national embarrassment they suffered in the wake of the invasion). So I think those that are predisposed to be generous to the administration will give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they were overzealous perhaps or were guilty of human error, but nothing more.
I think there is also a collective national shame that would discourage the kind of introspection that an investigation into the lead-up to war would involve. Chris Hedge talks about this in his stunningly good book, War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning. He spends a lot of time talking about the kind of communal hysteria that sweeps a country as it goes off to war, and how the state and the media actively persecute and silence the opponents of the war from the outset. But he also talks about the transience of that war mentality, so that as soon as the war is popularly discredited (as Iraq is well on its way to becoming), there is a tremendous aversion to looking back on what has happened. People try hard to avoid the subject altogether, as if they are ashamed of having been swept up in a delusion, which of course they had. I'm sure that if you took the 35% of the population that had supported the war in March of 2003 and no longer do so now and sit them down in front of some taped footage of the war coverage of that time, that it would make them physically uncomfortable. People would rather not be reminded.
June 7, 2005 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. All most folks know is that the Mighty Son of Poppy and His holy ministers are the ONLY ones keeping us safe from the nasty bad terror people. No matter that, when the next attack finally comes, it will again have happened on Bush's watch. It'll all be the fault of that goddamned satanic Bill Clinton and his army of obstructionist Democrats.
I had a long talk with a now ex-friend recently; ex because he said, "If we can get control of the oil, which is in our national interest, it will all have been worth it." Oh, I see: The deaths, mutilations, torture, trashing of our international reputation, waste of billions of dolalrs, etc. etc. will all be worth it if the fecocephalic Joe Sixpack can gas up his SUV for cheap. It will be a long time before I call that guy back; but how many millions out there in Red State Amurrika feel just as he does? He also told me not to worry about things I couldn't change. I hope that the GIPPER, in whatever circle of hell He now resides, smiled when He heard it.
June 7, 2005 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mark Danner has just addressed this issue in the New York Review of Books (subscribers only). His piece "What Are You Going to Do with That?" is a commencement address and well worth reading.
June 7, 2005 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
AnonHero-
What a great comment.
Ever since I read Alice Miller and Scott Peck (many, many years ago) I've been intrigued by the way that global dramas imitate the personal and individual psycho drama. The parallels are not exact, as societies are made up of unique individuals, but there will be national identity streams that one can watch.
Too often the analysis of culture and power blocs in psychological terms is discounted for the psychological language, as is individual analysis in many circles. I found you analysis a helpful examination of the psychological forces at work--in individuals and their larger society.
June 7, 2005 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
To paraphrase something I read just yesterday: "Many people don't want to be truly informed - they just want the illusion that they are being informed". Of course, this goes quite a ways towards explaining the rise of FOX news and cable news in general...but on a larger scale, I think it captures a good deal of the reason why we seem to be (as a country) in a state of either apathy or denial about the lead up to the Iraq war.
June 7, 2005 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't believe it's an issue of denial, I believe that it has had either no effect or little effect whatsoever on the every day lives of Americans.
From the very beginning, Bush and Cheney actively discouraged the participation of the people in this war. "Go shopping" or "Take your family on vacation" was the response from this administration when asked about the level of concern citizens should have. Never once have the American people been asked to sacrifice anything in this war or the so-called war on terror. An all-volunteer military force only serves to reinforce this notion that a war can be fought without any effort or participation of the people.
Many Americans have the idea that war is "good for the economy" and have no idea of the true cost both in lives and the economy. The bills for this war will not come due for years and this administration will be long gone before they do. Only then will the American people be asking themselves how they got into this mess in the first place.
June 7, 2005 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bush could just say he had a sincere hunch that the WMD were there and realizing that the evidence as currently assembled was inconclusive or equivocal he sent his spies to look at everything again or look farther and wider. A lawyer may perceive that she has a weak case and yet believe her client is innocent, in which case she might look for an undiscovered alibi or inconsistency in the prosecutions theory. The lawyer may be wrong about her client's innocence, and yet not wrong in how she acted on her belief--in particular if in seeking support for her client's evidence she went to sources she believed were credible, say the FBI or CIA, and didn't go paying people to provide false alibi. The memo is suggestive and certainly my own strong hunch is that the president is utterly corrupt, but alas it proves very little.
June 7, 2005 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think there are two issues at play here. First, as suggested in the post, everyone already knows that the facts in support of war were at least spun and at worst outright fabricated, so the Downing Street Memo doesn't really provide new information. Second, and in my view more importantly, it seems like the emasculation(sp?) of the media has led to a situation where nothing short of a videotape of the President telling the Vice President and Sec. Rumsfeld "please gin up a case for war. Lie if you have to. If you need me to lie, I'd be happy to oblige. Just insert it into the State of the Union" is worth reporting.
Anyway, I really like the new site - thanks for setting it up.
June 7, 2005 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Depends on what you mean by "we".
I'm certain that the type of person who reads this blog is aware that the DSM is true. Ditto for the GOoPers who write for NRO. Those hacks are praying that the DSM is forgotten as "old news".
Just remember how loudly those same hacks were shrieking about 9/11, mushroom clouds and Saddam when this meeting between the British and Americans took place. They're pretending, now, that everybody new THEN that everything BushCo was saying was a lie.
They're still lying. Very few normal people - people not addicted to news blogs - knew then that Bush was lying. And the overwhelming majority of people NOW don't know that Bush lied.
"Old news", they say, and hope we forget, and hope we don't raise a stink. The mere fact that they admit it's "old news" is a tacit admission that they were lying back then.
Because the DSM says, flat out, that BushCo fixed the intel to match their dreams of conquest.
Ask your non-political neighbors if they've heard of the DSM. Ask them if they believe that Bush lied, or if he was simply misled by bad intel.
I think the readers of this blog should assume that NOBODY knows it's true. Tell as many people as you can, and bring evidence to the argument.
June 7, 2005 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's one way to look at it. There's also a sense that any criticism is dwelling on negative thoughts. Only loosers have negative thoughts. To say, "I'm an American", is to say, by definition, that I am a winner).
June 7, 2005 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, one of the problems here is that Democrats (and all those opposed to the war generally -- even after the fact) don't have much leverage in a country shrouded in fear after 9/11. I must agree with a previous commenter. Many Americans just don't pay that much attention to these things, let alone spend their days reading liberal blogs. They spend their days working, taking care of their families, spending time with friends, focusing on their hobbies and private interests. All they know -- and I'm know I'm generalizing here -- is that America was attacked on 9/11, that thousands of innocent Americans died, that their leaders are telling them that Iraq was somehow involved, that there's this vague thing called "terrorism" that is at war with us, and that any day could bring another 9/11, or worse.
Political manipuation of this kind happens because it's easy to manipulate a relatively disengaged electorate. There's a good deal of time and energy spent trying to figure out why there's so much cynicism out there, but I would say that the real issue is, ironically, the success of liberal democracy -- when things are going well, as they generally are, people are generally less likely to get involved or otherwise to be engaged. They're more content to focus on their private lives. 9/11 may have shattered that illusion somewhat, but, in the end, many people would rather not know what's really going on out there. 9/11, in my view, initially tore down that facade of self-illusion but, in the end, also strengthened it. It added a sense of fear to an already powerful sense of complacency. And that's a really, really bad combination -- especially where the truth is concerned.
In this atmosphere, it's been tough for Democrats, as evidenced by Kerry's for-it-against-it "flip-flop". If you're against the war, you're somehow unpatriotic and pro-terrorism, even if you have the facts on your side -- because the facts don't matter, the perception does. If you're for the war, then why focus on the manipulation that brought it about. This means that thoughtful Democrats -- and thoughtful Americans generally -- have had to wade into the quagmire of nuance. And in American politics that doesn't get you very far. I think this helps explain why even the war's opponents haven't effectively dealt with the pre-war manipulation.
June 7, 2005 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Josh is partly right, but he misses the political dynamic. We have half the country that already knows everything in the memo is true, and the half that belongs to the cult that stands by whatever Bush's latest re-explanation about Iraq is, facts be damned. No amount of evidence will convince them.
Those outlets not catering to conservatives are trying to please everybody, so why alienate the cult to publish a story the rest of their viewers already know? Why suffer the heat from the White House? They think the non-Republicans have no place else to go, so their efforts are concentrated on reaching out to pod people who will accept nothing short of obsequious kowtowing
Concentrating on missing white women avoids the problem.
June 7, 2005 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have heard it over and over. From Bill Mahr, to Pat Buchanon. They excuse the president under the assumption that "Politicians Lie" all the time to get what they want.
I seriously believe many Americans think the same way. Its ok for Politicians to lie to us. Most people didn't care when Clinton lied about a blowjob, and most people don't care now that Bush lied to take us to war. Well the mainstream media seemed to care about the blowjob, but not the war. But if you remember in 1997 when all this broke, polls showed that 75% of Americans didn't care whether clinton lied about a personal matter.
I am willing to bet that were a poll taken today showing how many people thought it was acceptable that Bush lied to take us to war, the numbers would be much lower, if the poll were couched in those terms.
But of course, the mainstream media is full of lazy pussies who refuse to ask tough questions. When Iraq goes bad and our forces are overrun by insurgents - no were not there yet - I say we send all these douchebag journalists to fight the war they refused to cover. Jonah Goldberg is a small target, he would do just fine in the military.
June 7, 2005 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's far too sophisticated. People aren't "blocking out" the information that Bush lied. There's no sub-conscious effort to avoid a look in the mirror.
It's far simpler than that.
People just don't know. They don't know that Bush lied. Bush claims he was misled - "As we all were" - by bad intel.
Americans are happy to criticize their government, if they can simply be informed about what that government is doing wrong. The problem now is, people don't know. They don't know because the press isn't telling them.
June 7, 2005 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've also been dismayed about the lack of public outrage. But it's not denial. Contrary to the collective howls on lefty blogs about poor coverage of these issues, plenty of evidence has been presented of either incompetence or outright corruption to turn the heads of people that pay scant attention to the news. Even the "secondary" flow of news (such as Newsweek's recent flogging) serves to get the underlying issues into the public mind. Still, no outrage. Perhaps a bit of parlour skepticism, but that's all. We have to face the fact that most Americans' relationship to national or international issues of war, poverty, disease, etc., are entirely grounded in the personal. Or, to be more cynical, grounded in self-interest. The tide wasn't turning against McCarthy until he immolated himself by picking the wrong enemies and Murrow trained his camera on it. The tide turned against Vietnam when the draft expanded to college campuses. Public opposition is not based on higher ideals. In fact, calling it "public" opposition is misleading--it's a million individual furies that change the course in times like these. We don't have those numbers. 9/11 is an empty slogan already. Thus far, these issues that have enraged the centrists and progressives are NOT creating widespread, personal impact for everyday Americans--the impacts are all abstract or diffuse (like the opportunity-cost of the deficit), the cost in blood is horrible, but not overwhelming, and gas prices are even falling. Americans have lived off the spoils of the long war for a long time. We are used to disaster outside our borders - in most people's minds, that's right where it belongs, right where it has always been. As long as gas is cheap, food is cheap, and the TV is on in America, the natural order is being maintained. Someday we'll get the historiographic treatment we deserve, but I'm not holding my breath.
June 7, 2005 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
peddled by this Administration was twofold, first, that there was no doubt that Saddam was attempting to ressurrect his nuclear weapons program and that he had chemical and biological weapons. Think of that assessment: no doubt. Because, if there's doubt, there might not be war. Sure, there was suspicion of Saddam everywhere, but where else did that suspicion admit no doubt? The second component of the lie was that chemical and biological weapons in Saddam's hands were a grave, immediate (a term used by the Secretary of Defense) threat to the United States, with a fearsome arsenal that dwarfed whatever Saddam might have socked away.
Our denial is motivated by a will to vengeance, I think. Vengeance for 11 September, but for more. Vengeance is not justice. Vengeance is all about the victim expatiating his feelings of being victimized, all about getting even--with the entity that has wronged him, sure, but if that entity isn't available, another will do.
June 7, 2005 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The bottom line is that everybody expected Iraq to be at least as easy & successful as Afghanistan (even easier, actually, because the terrain was more favorable), and none of the "smart" politicians were willing to go on record opposing a triumphant military victory. Sadly, that probably includes Bill & Hillary Clinton.
I vaguely remember an ironic, candid quote by ex-Air Force big-wig Merril McPeak. I'm paraphrasing him, but the gist was "I'm nuts to oppose this Iraq war. Everybody's going to get a medal & everybody's going to come home. But nevertheless, I still oppose it because I just can't see the need to go to war."
Only brave politicians who cared more about their country than their careers (like Gore, Wes Clark, Dean & Gary Hart) were willing to go out on a limb and strike a note of caution & warning. And all of them, I believe, have paid a political price for their opposition. Opposing a war which your country's military officers support is never good politics.
FWIW, on the day the war started Gore made a statement "I would not have started this war", but according to people who were there his tone was conciliatory and he focused on the importance of the post-war reconstruction. It was only after it became clear how careless and arrogant the administration had been in post-war planning that the really angry speeches started, in August 2003. Gore gave a speech on civil liberties & detainee treatment in October 2003 and after Abu Graibh in 2004 he really flipped his lid.
The funny thing is, I think Iraq really should have gone at least as well, or better, than Afghanistan. Only the administration's incredible hubris and bad decision-making has made it go so much worse than expected.
But I think it's also necessary to say that us anti-war folks must not act like we deserve some kind of medal or cookie for opposing the Iraq war. We have to realize that all elections are relentlessly about the future, and what needs to be done going forward.
Do Democrats understand that Americans are eager for guidance on moving forward in the WOT, and on other issues, and are not at all eager to hold the Bush administration accountable for the many catastrophic mistakes they have made in the past? If so, they can get elected. If not, not.
Do you know that up to now I thought Anonymous Hero was one person? I pictured a middle-aged Hungarian emigre tech worker who was a sophomore in college.
June 7, 2005 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems to me that maybe one of the problems is that media messed up in the run-up to the war and just printed what the administration said. If the media reported that it was all a lie then it would show that they really messed up and didn't do their job.
Do you really think they are going to do this. Its really easy to see why this story isn't in the news.
June 7, 2005 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, history is written by the victors. As such, in 100 years this history won't be written by the democrats or the republicans; rather, it will be written by the Chinese. Given their history of xenophobia, they will probably see it as the damn foolishness it is.
June 7, 2005 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do the people care? Yes I agree that national denial is at work and that Americans are right now alcoholics who can’t admit that they have a problem. Several other factors reinforce the impulse to look away: 1. the well known indifference of Americans to politics. If the story of the deception comes out through allegations by Democrats, people might dismiss it as “partisan bickering”; 2. the fact that the war in Iraq seems to have no direction (the sheer repetitiveness of the violence is, sadly numbing); 3. the war, unlike the attacks four years ago, seem to have no connection to people’s lives here, with the obvious exception of military families.
But why the silence from the media? Fear? Denial? No question, but is that the whole story? I wonder if something else is at work too. If the media puts the pieces together (and they already have the pieces), what would the complete narrative of the administration’s deceptions, manipulations and malevolent machinations do? It might lead to the paralysis of the executive branch (think Johnson circa ’68 or Nixon in ’74). Are people afraid that might not be the best outcome during a war? The complete narrative would also raise a lot of troubling questions about where we’ve gone in the last 4 years (e.g. how we’ve completely lost our focus on genuine terrorism and how much the country has changed.)
June 7, 2005 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
that as a nation we had what was a very natural and decidedly emotional reaction to the events of 9/11. The national psyche needed some serious looking after.
Our government officials in both the executive and congress acquiesced to the masses that were crying out for retribution. However that might be expected, it was truly the wrong response. Responsible leadership would have found the mental fortitude to put aside how badly it hurt and avoid a thoughtless reaction. Sure we got after the Taliban but it wasn't enough for many and basically the WH and Congress caved to hawkish demands for revenge.
It was wrong because both the WH and Congress allowed the nation to be guided based on emotion. So much for deliberative and clear headed thought. If ever there was a need and a time for being objective and finding truth this was it. We struck out like a little child at what we thought was the source of our pain in order to soothe our injury.
Not only did we err through acting out of emotion but we got it quite wrong as well. Throughout most of the Afghanistan campaign we were running on pure emotion and it created a circumstance void of clear thought. We basically let OBL get away because of this. Various assessments were made that were wildly off the mark even though there were some who knew the conditions we faced very well. They weren't listened to because they were using logic and knowledge while most were doing something else entirely. In such a climate sound decisions are hard to come by. Having ignored our best military planners relative to the scope of the requirements only compounded the difficulty of the task. Bush is big on following his gut. Well guess what? You better know something about bees if you intend on attacking a hornets nest. And if you don't you better ask around for advice from people who know and then listen carefully to what they have to say. And it might even be wise to listen to the onlookers who might happen to know a thing or two as well.
Anyway, you get my drift. The experienced people that likely knew the way things should have been done were ignored (or fired). In place of that we had a bunch of cowboys who had not a clue. And still don't. And you'll notice how much tightening up has gone on in the second term in the Bush WH. They have circled the wagons even tighter than before and are potentially even less inclined than before of listening to sound advice. Purely dogmatic in every regard. No exceptions.
It is a virtual certainty that historians will treat this episode harshly. And with good reason.
thepeoplechoose
June 7, 2005 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
American History 101
I. The European Discovery
II. England in the American Colonies 1620 -1775
III. America 1775- 1860
IV. America 1860 -2001
V. The Fall of the Republic
VI. America Today
June 7, 2005 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
History will say the American people were affected with a severe case of sleeping sickness caused by the droning of the MSM about events that matter little to average citizens. The MSM has, or so it seems, decided to stop reporting on Iraq now that there is an "Iraqi Government" in place and "Democracy" is flourishing. One gets the impression that all the "news" is sanitized by the Administration before the MSM will report it thus resulting in a miasma of misinformation permeating the country.
June 7, 2005 12:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sad but what a predictable a reply. The question I would like to ask all the fervent supporters of the Iraqi invasion is, "what did we get from invading Iraq? It's cost $300 billion, over 1,600 American lives and over 12,000 wounded..and oh how many Iraqi' causulties? and no end in sight.
It's either a colossal mistake and or an impeachable offense.
June 7, 2005 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too much of what passes for discourse on this and other blogs is the same tired old Us vs. Them partisan nattering. The idea that the Democrats can make hay over Bush admin intelligence manipulation at this very late date – even if they were capable of doing so – is naïve. How about trying to look at problems and issues without partisan blinders once and a while? The results might be interesting.
June 7, 2005 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe many people simply cannot believe that things have gone so completely wrong in Iraq. It's too much of a nightmare to contemplate. Ergo, if you don't want to see what a mess it is, you don't even want to go to the place where you need to think about -- we've not only bungled things since we arrived in Iraq, but huge miscalculations were made before we got there. On top of that, really thinking about the lies that got us there -- it's overwhelming. On top of that I think many Americans may fear that a real down and dirty national debate about Iraq will send a message to US troops that they are not supported.
June 7, 2005 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isakson is my Senator too, I am sorry to say. I have written him and also Chambliss on other issues and they responded with a similar "bug letter".
June 7, 2005 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with being "relentlessly focused on the future" is that it means that you can pretty much get away with anything, as long as there's something else on the horizon to focus on. (There always is.)
Of course, the context of your comment was that of electability of Democrats, but let's be honest.. not everything is about electability, and partisans who are laser-focused only on getting elected will always be seen as rootless and opportunistic.
June 7, 2005 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The reason there's not more outcry about Iraq is because of an unspoken contract between the rulers of this country and the rest of us: They can do whatever they want as long as they keep us safe from the terrorists.
They can declare war on whoever they want. For whatever reason they want. They can funnel trillions to their friends. They can take away our rights. They can make everybody pray to Jesus before business meetings, make schoolchildren wear Burkas, raise gas prices, pardon corporate executives...they can do, literally, whatever they want, as long as there are no more terrorist attacks. That is the implicit deal. And that is why, much to progressives' chagrin, none of these stories about Bush's wrongdoing get any traction. Torture? Yawn. Downing Street Memo? Uh...where the fuck is Downing Street? 100,000 dead Iraqi's? Fuck them - they are Arabs. 1700 dead American troops? Well, they signed up of their own free will, plus they're mostly Mexicans and hillbillies. Tax cuts for the rich? Well, I might be rich someday.
Oh yeah, I forgot - they gotta keep the cable TV going and there can't be any interruption in the sports seasons. Ohter than that, Bush has free reign. Us Chicken Littles, running around, screaming that the sky is falling and that the war is "wrong"...well, we're just quaint. Quaint remnants of something called democracy, which was really just a big pain in the ass anyway. Welcome to the American Monarchy. We have chosen to be subjects rather than citizens, dependent on the King's benificence for our national well being. This is the new social contract. It might take some time for those of us accustomed to thinking they are supposed to have a voice in our government to get it through our thick skulls.
June 7, 2005 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right now both CNN and Fox are televising uninterrupted a freeway chase, followed by an hour plus long standoff between the police and a nutjob in a van. This means they have already devoted more time, in one continuous block to this trivial non-news event, than they have devoted to the Downing street memo in total. So, no question that the news media bears a lot of the blame for the lack of interest in the truth that we Americans are showing.
But, there is another issue too: We were just so totally devasted by the thought that a sitting president had received a blow job, let alone a blow job from a much younger woman who was at least marginally attractive. We just couldn't wait to expunge that horrible thought from our minds. In addition of course, we are all traumatized by the thought of two men engaging in some sexual act, and especially so if those two men are given the title of "married couple". So, we are all just ecstatic over the fact that we now don't have to worry about the President getting a blow job, and we know that our President is equally disgusted about two men enjoying a sexual act. Who cares about trivialities like war and the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people? (I'm not making this up. Some of my relatives, who live in a red state, really do think this way.)
June 7, 2005 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"understanding"... I think that is a really good word. No judgement, just a question. Here's my response, no judgement. Just a number of ideas and how each idea would contribute to denial.
1. Of the things people must worry about, Iraq is not at the top of the list. You don't really care about the details. What's done is done.
2. People are busy, but they know someone over there in Iraq. How difficult is it to say "my son" or "my loved one" is over there fighting a war that was made on false pretenses.--Again, why would you take the time to figure out where the errors were. You care a lot more about where things will be headed than where things came from. How do we stop/clean up this mess? Let's focus on that.
3. You actually believe the president is an honest person. It was a simple mistake made by some of his subordinates, but now the democrats are just trying to play politics with it and attack Bush's character.
4. The spreading of democracy, the liberation of people, fighting for freedom.... all of which Iraq symbolizes for some individuals... is one of the few positive things that has happened during our slumping economy of post-Clinton. Now, it too is looking crappy...
5. FOX news. It is amazing that almost half of all Bush voters believed that we FOUND WMD in Iraq. Can you believe that???? Fox news is the sole source of news for too many people. We need to convince people to obtain their news from multiple sources.
I think the original question is an important question to learn from. Much like "why do we let the national debt get bigger and bigger and bigger? Why won't someone act responsibly and stop this constantly enlarging pit?"--politics. What would Senator Kerry, what would any politician gain by continually trying to make a huge issue out of Iraq? Almost every one of them voted for the war. The country does not want people to point fingers, they want problems to be solved.
We were told that Saddam Hussein was a problem. Few people stood up to dispute this assertion (yes, many internationals did, and a few domestics, but most politicians did not). The solution to the problem was fighting a war, which we "won".
The current problem we are facing concerning "denial" is that there was never a considerable and credible opposition that was opposed to the Iraqi intelligence and the Iraqi war by either major party. Thus, when you tell someone... "hey, you remember a few years ago when..." They are NOT going to care unless you really try to sell your argument. Unfortunately, most politicians don't want to spend their time trying to sell a point that is good for the sake of truth, but serves no practical purpose as far as politics go.
-Zen Blade
June 7, 2005 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
so your point is "These bastards have committed crimes, and it's not just enough to replace them, we need to hold them accountable".
Not that holding people acountable isn't important, but it is *much* less important than several other things, among them getting universal health care, getting our fiscal house in order, life-saving foreign aid, saving the social safety net, competent leadership to make the best of Iraq, competent leadership to make the best of Afghanistan, competent leadership in the War on Terror, competent leadership on other foreign policy issues, and lots of other stuff.
When Valclav Havel or Nelson Mandela rose to power, do you think they liked having to kiss the ass and refrain from punishing a bunch of people who either committed great evils or were Uncle Tom's to those who did?
I'm fine with justice & accountability, but the odds are we're not going to get it (have you noticed Kissinger prancing around?), and it's not at the top of my list of priorities.
June 7, 2005 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
they believe there is a connection between 9/11 and Saddam? Over and over on cable news shows, guest or callers or e-mailers will make the charge and it is NEVER corrected by the host of the show.
June 7, 2005 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_053105J.shtml
June 7, 2005 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Senator Iskason (R-Georgia) wrote (well, the senator's staff member<s> wrote) something in his letter that really caught my eye.
"The sacrifice for both Americans and Iraqis has been great..."
I'm just wondering, has anyone asked Senator Iskason just what he has sacrificed or continues to sacrifice due to the ongoing war in Iraq?
The senator reminds me of a certain prominent major national magazine writer with a penchant for playing with the facts on a significant issue that affects all Americans.
Either that, or a certain blog boss with a penchant for asking for information about a certain prominent major national magazine writer, receiving said information, confirming receipt of said information from multiple sources, and then taking no action whatsoever.
Just spinning the story, dodging the issue, and raking in the contributions, three peas in a D.C. pod.
June 7, 2005 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
How did we get into Iraq in the first place? This question, from the man who made it his mission to make sure that everybody heard--straight from Ken Pollack, no less--that we had no choice but to take out Saddam before it was too late?!
June 7, 2005 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Part of the problem is also the lack of accountability of this administration. Since the intel was massaged and analysts are under gag orders the public, in general, even if they wanted to know couldn't get the details. And for the public in general it doesn't matter. Most of them have confidence in Bush to protect us, rightly or wrongly. The reason is that if we "take the fight" to them it isn't a war we will have to fight on our soil. And since 9/11 there have been no further attacks on US soil, and that adds to the impression that Bush is protecting us in the public's mind. Thus they ignore any lies or refusal to explain what happened.
June 7, 2005 1:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
And this is why we are so reluctant to act against him. This is the advantage for a President who successfully portrays himself as a patriotic leader.
Even if you are not a great supporter of the president, his loss is your loss too. Its like mutually assured destruction, or like trying to cut off your own "bad" limb. The consequence of each is too painful to consider except in really extreme circumstances.
So a damaging memo can be ignored, as can a couple more. This is especially true if the memo-in-question can be plausably discredited. We're not going to question the discrediting too much if it allows us to maintain an appearance of good character for our country.
Again: a limb must be undeniably bad before you will cut it off. Just how bad does Bush have to be before we will cut him off?
Torture can be ignored. Motives can be ingnored. Sadam is a very bad man anyway. Something really embarasing must be disclosed for enough people to take notice.
Corporate misdeeds? No we're OK with that? Millitary service issues? Unpatriotic to even consider. Needless death and destruction? Nope. Talking nonsense in public office? Not relevant, as has been demonstrated by other recent leaders.
Sex is the most potent weapon, as was evident during Clinton's troubles. But this president has little to fear from that perspective. He's tough. He's pious. He's attractive but in a clean way. And anyway, he's into power, not sex.
Like a non-stick pan, Bush's (beautiful) outer surface is very slippery. It will take a lot of scuffing before "normal" stuff sticks.
June 7, 2005 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh's remarks here and in The Hill column are a bullseye. This has been apparent of many of us for some time now. It is reprehensible that the intelligence analysts are being blamed for providing the false 'fix' that was required of them by their superiors. The congressional inquiry into 'what went wrong' was blatantly fraudulent.
But the root of all this duplicity is much, much deeper, and goes where no one in Congress or the country is willing to go. That would require a critical examination of the role of clandestine US intelligence and organized crime in American politics, especially since WWII. Alliances of convenience made in postwar Italy may have had some long-term undesirable consequences, at least for those idealists among us. (And both the war and Manhattan Project taught us how to manage top secret "black budget" military operations.) Where some see spinelessness as the problem with our political opposition, could it not be something far more nefarious at work?
The master narrative will not allow us to pursue any such line of questioning. But critical events in the US over the last 50 years, most notably involving political assassinations, have played a key role in shaping our current regime and press. Watergate was an aberration. The Warren Commission was more the norm (incl. the October Surprise, Iran Contra, etc.). The success of the JFK assassination was not only in its removal of a sitting US president in broad daylight, but in the fact that whoever did it was powerful enough to get away with it without becoming identified or punished. Might this happen again with respect to the current war in Iraq?
If there ever comes a day for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission in our beloved country that goes to the roots of our half century of crises, I am sure the culprits will justify their actions on the basis of their patriotism, and on information that they absolutely could not divulge to the general public. But the real American tragedy will be in that if they ever do divulged the truth, and the depth and breadth of the deception and lies, our public is so well conditioned that it will never believe them or take them seriously. And that, in a nutshell, will be the ultimate success of the rightwing radicals in the post WWII era.
June 7, 2005 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I think 9/11 frightened Americans on a primal level to the point that the truth is not relevant. They want to be protected."
I keep hearing people here referring to how frightened the country is after 9/11. I really don't remember the people I was around after that time period as being scared. Most of them were angry and wanted revenge. Maybe writers here had a different experience than I did, but I think anger and a desire for revenge are stronger motivators today as fear.
I think that puts a different dynamic for support for Bush
June 7, 2005 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention part of a large community that was utterly convinced that John Kerry was going to win in a landslide. Media has gotten sophisticated to the point where all of us, conservatives and liberals alike, can stuff ourselves with a propaganda of choice.
June 7, 2005 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that there is nothing NEW that is NEWS in the DSM. However, what IS news to me is that (as it has already been stated some 30 times in these coments) the general populace seems to know nothing of it. It is proof positive of what we already knew to be a pack of lies disguised as a war strategy. I, for one, am getting tired of the spin, the argument and frankly the bullshit. I am a liberal who doesn't hate America..It's the simplest of prinicples drummed into my skull all my life...
Truth and justice is the American way.
Remember that? Gosh, if only it were true. The other reason I want the DSM to be news is because we need all the help we can get in removing America's collective heads from the sand so the next election might not be so much like the last election.
Finally allow me to use the words of Bill Moyers to illustrate what I mean:
"An unconscious people, an indoctrinated people, a people fed only partisan information and opinion that confirm their own bias, a people made morbidly obese in mind and spirit by the junk food of propaganda is less inclined to put up a fight - ask questions and be skeptical."
See what I mean Vern?
June 7, 2005 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not a fear of physical destruction, or another terrorist attack. It's a fear of helplessness, a fear that all of our vaunted military, economic, and cultural power just doesn't count for all that much in the end. What better way to assuage this fear than a Crusade for Democracy?
June 7, 2005 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
>> We have to realize that all elections are relentlessly about the future, and what needs to be done going forward.
They lied in the past, they can (will) lie in the future. So i think this story is about the future.
I read your comments and i tend to agree w/ most of it, but i get the impression from your post that the pursuit of the story that is addressed in the Downing Street Memo isnt really worth it, or that it wont amount to much. And that part i dont agree with. I think it will resonate more and more over time, if the dems continue to question the admin about it (which hopefully will result in some media coverage). My apologies if i misread your post.
June 7, 2005 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Washington elites of both parties have been in the business of enabling repressive Arab and Muslim regimes for decades, (not to mention giving Israel better than fair treatment), in part because of our strategic interests during the cold war, but fundamentally because oil is the lifeblood of the American dream (and especially the dream of the American elites). Then (not surprisingly) along came 9/11 to which there were effectively two possible responses.
The liberal internationalists seem to see the threat of Islamist terrorism as one among many security threats facing this country, to be countered and contained by some combination of international police and intelligence operations, with military actions reserved primarily for states that attack us or are harboring non-state networks that have attacked us. From this perspective the Iraq war has always made little sense. It is to them a "diversion from the real war on terror." What they seem to want is a "return to normal" (that is, the 1990s) when American empire had EU and UN cover, albeit now with a multinational effort to suppress terror networks. The trouble with this point of view is both strategic and political. Recognizing that one of the three chief reasons we are hated in the Arab and wider Muslim world is that we have in the past (and continue to be) hypocritical on the democracy front (talking it up while enabling repressive Muslim dictatorships), simply targeting non-state networks without working to reform the fundamental political dynamics of the region and our co-dependent relationships with Arab and Muslim regimes (as the liberal internationalists seem to want us to do...when did Kerry ever mention the words Iraq and democracy or Arab and democracy in the same sentence?) is a recipe for many, many years or decades of terrorist attacks against us. And of course it is a non-starter with the American people, who had a chance to vote for a muscular liberal internationalist last year, and didn't.
The second possible response to 9/11 and the threat posed by Islamist terrorism comes to us from those beloved neocons and liberal hawks, and happens to be the course we are actually following. They recognize America, with her more than 700 bases around the world, and unparalleled military and economic supremacy, to be an imperial power. They recognize the dependence of the global economy (including and especially the American economy) on oil. They recognize the role that repressive Arab and Muslim dictatorships, and our enabling relationships with those dictatorships play in the threat of Islamist terrorism against us. They recognize the chance for power and profit. And they recognize that the democratic aspirations of the people of the Arab world are far more widespread than their opponents seem to think. The war in Iraq was in short about all of these things - oil, power, profit, planting the seeds of "democracy" (which has come throughout much of the democratic world to mean choosing which brand of elites we wish to govern us, not rule by the people) in the heart of the middle east, and a healthy dose of lingering cold war right-wing paranoia about the role of states in terrorism. And as far as selling the war to the American people, all you needed was a brown faced bogeyman who may or may not have had bad, weapons, and some post 9/11 anger and it was an easy sell. Even Al Gore could've pulled it off.
The war could still fail, and the chaos could still spread to neighboring countries. But this is not Vietnam. 2/3 of Iraqis at least want their new "democracy" to succeed (and to be sure it will be a much, much better government than the previous one, even if its likely to be more corrupt, backward and plutocratic than our own [which is quite an achievement these days]), and even the perennial pessimist Juan Cole acknowledges that the Sunnis will ultimately tire of their defiance of empire. The American people are getting pissy, but they know there's no way out anytime soon, and they're going to vote for the guy (or gal) in 08 who holds the line in Iraq, and stays the course not only there, but in promoting "democracy" throughout the region. If both candidates are equally convincing in this regard, they're going to vote for the one with the more sane domestic policies. No one should think that this thing is near over, or even halfway there yet. There will be future interventions. There will likely be a draft. We will see our liberties further eroded, and our taxes raised dramatically before it is all over. The only question is: do the Democrats have the stomach for it? Do the Democrats want to become the war party?
If the answer is yes, they need to put their kvetching about this war aside, and get behind the liberal hawks in the party. If the answer is no, they need to start behaving like a real opposition party, taking a page from the WW II GOP playbook, standing up for civil liberties (do people realize we are indicting art professors and raiding the homes of pulp novelists researching terrorism for their books?), states' rights, individual liberty, freedom of speech, fiscal conservatism, and against American empire (even their beloved Clinton-era American empire). John Kerry tried to have it both ways; you can't (see the 1936 and 1940 elections for more about that). It's decision time for Democrats.
June 7, 2005 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the greatest denial is among those (especially anti-war Democrats) who can't accept that most Americans supported going to war in Iraq, and that most Americans still think it was the right thing to do at the time. That's separate from saying that most Americans like the way the Iraq war has played out or what is happening there now. There is no doubt the administration is in deep denial about its "success" in Iraq, but I don't think the American people are in similar denial about the current situation. I live in a very heavily Republican area of Atlanta and I don't know anyone who doesn't think that Iraq is a mess. Folks know that things are going badly, but don't know what to do other than what we aren't presently doing, and so, since they can't turn back the clock, they focus on "supporting the troops". Denial, no. Resignation, yes. Regret, probably.
June 7, 2005 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent post. My only quibble is that the military didn't seem too concerned about WMD prior to, during and after the invasion.
Sure, there was a lot of hoo-hah from reporters about gas masks and stuff, but would a sane military commander mass hundred of thousands of troops and support personnel in Kuwait knowing that they could be hit with WMD? And as we all know, there wasn't a great deal of effort put into securing suspected WMD sites.
To me it just doesn't add up.
June 7, 2005 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Only slightly different from the response from Isakson. Neither of them made any attempt to repond to my original question about their thoughts and reactions to the Downing St. Memo.
Dear Mr.
Thank you for contacting me regarding the United States
involvement in Iraq. It is good to hear from you.
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